At what cost of passion. Whitetail Rendezvous Podcast with Dan
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Re: At what cost of passion. Whitetail Rendezvous Podcast with Dan
dan wrote:https://whitetailrendezvous.com/at-what-cost-is-your-hunting-passion-with-dan-infalt/
That’s some pretty reflective stuff. Some might think it contradictory to hear you say, “How bad do you want a mature buck? You gotta put the time in,” and then say, “You better think long and hard before putting the time in because it has a price.” I don’t think it is. I think it might help some people go in with eyes wide open if they haven’t done that to this point.
Life is one long series of tradeoffs. I’m more or less the same age as you. I look back and have similar thoughts, although for different reasons. There was a piece of me that went a little stir-crazy if I didn’t have something where I could go clear the cobwebs on my own. I don’t think it was hugely negatively impactful, but it probably was to my family. I was away for a ton of my own birthdays to go on an annual long weekend. Will happen this year too. Thankfully I haven’t missed theirs.
Time away, money spent on hobbies... it all has a toll. I could have been better off in a financial long term if I had spent those hobby hours investing, etc. But I think we just have to make the most of now.
Personally, I’ve had shorter hunting seasons than most because I don’t go every week. I have my daughter every other week and I take that time to do stuff with the kids rather than hunt. Just the way it is. And probably one of the reasons I went all the way to Jan 31 of this year! I had to make up on duration what I couldn’t in frequency. And it’ll be that way this year too. Will it affect my chances of success? Yeah, but there’s that trade off again.
In the end, I hope people can find the right balance. It’s different for everyone. I think I’m finding it now, but who really knows? I do know I also want to be an open book to those past experiences too. I think that same attitude you described is actually helping me connect better with my son these days. So I can’t go back and change the things I’d like to, but I can put those life experiences to better use going forward.
Well, I better stop writing this at 12:54 PM so I can get up early to do a trail run and then get some stuff done on an off-daughter weekend so I don’t have to chew up that time with stupid stuff like finishing the mud work on the drywall patch in the living room ceiling. And as a secondary benefit, I’ll have it done so it won’t be hanging over my head during hunting season. Maybe I’m finding that win-win after all?
Appreciate you sharing that stuff.
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Re: At what cost of passion. Whitetail Rendezvous Podcast with Dan
greenhorndave wrote:dan wrote:https://whitetailrendezvous.com/at-what-cost-is-your-hunting-passion-with-dan-infalt/
That’s some pretty reflective stuff. Some might think it contradictory to hear you say, “How bad do you want a mature buck? You gotta put the time in,” and then say, “You better think long and hard before putting the time in because it has a price.” I don’t think it is. I think it might help some people go in with eyes wide open if they haven’t done that to this point.
Life is one long series of tradeoffs. I’m more or less the same age as you. I look back and have similar thoughts, although for different reasons. There was a piece of me that went a little stir-crazy if I didn’t have something where I could go clear the cobwebs on my own. I don’t think it was hugely negatively impactful, but it probably was to my family. I was away for a ton of my own birthdays to go on an annual long weekend. Will happen this year too. Thankfully I haven’t missed theirs.
Time away, money spent on hobbies... it all has a toll. I could have been better off in a financial long term if I had spent those hobby hours investing, etc. But I think we just have to make the most of now.
Personally, I’ve had shorter hunting seasons than most because I don’t go every week. I have my daughter every other week and I take that time to do stuff with the kids rather than hunt. Just the way it is. And probably one of the reasons I went all the way to Jan 31 of this year! I had to make up on duration what I couldn’t in frequency. And it’ll be that way this year too. Will it affect my chances of success? Yeah, but there’s that trade off again.
In the end, I hope people can find the right balance. It’s different for everyone. I think I’m finding it now, but who really knows? I do know I also want to be an open book to those past experiences too. I think that same attitude you described is actually helping me connect better with my son these days. So I can’t go back and change the things I’d like to, but I can put those life experiences to better use going forward.
Well, I better stop writing this at 12:54 PM so I can get up early to do a trail run and then get some stuff done on an off-daughter weekend so I don’t have to chew up that time with stupid stuff like finishing the mud work on the drywall patch in the living room ceiling. And as a secondary benefit, I’ll have it done so it won’t be hanging over my head during hunting season. Maybe I’m finding that win-win after all?
Appreciate you sharing that stuff.[/que]
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Re: At what cost of passion. Whitetail Rendezvous Podcast with Dan
Excellent stuff and from the heart! Thanks for sharing
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Good Podcast.
I think for myself I have been fortunate that my family hunts as well so it is more of a shared passion. My wife didn't hunt till after we were married and really only hunt a few years and she was really only hunting to spend time with me. With PA regs with the younger kids, you are only permitted to take 1 kid with you at a time, so there was several years that she was taking one kid out and I was taking another.
I think that if my kids didn't end up being hunters there would have been more issues with my hunting and family life.
I think for myself I have been fortunate that my family hunts as well so it is more of a shared passion. My wife didn't hunt till after we were married and really only hunt a few years and she was really only hunting to spend time with me. With PA regs with the younger kids, you are only permitted to take 1 kid with you at a time, so there was several years that she was taking one kid out and I was taking another.
I think that if my kids didn't end up being hunters there would have been more issues with my hunting and family life.
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Lotta things in life more important than hunting! Did I actually just say that?
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I think the older we get, the more we are able to see the cost clearer. Good video.
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Thanks Danny... We all have our good and bad moments. Some of my bad was barking orders and yelling at my son. Took me quite a while to realize that approach was 100% wrong with him. He’s very smart and all the yelling in the world won’t work if he doesn’t have a legit “why.”
Now he and I are in a different situation. That same situation I mentioned was a factor in my relatively recent divorce. He didn’t want anything to do with me for a while.
But perpetual drama is not part of my life anymore. I don’t know if I’ve settled down, but the constant stress of a match that wasn’t quite right is gone. I recognized why my approach was wrong and started talking to him more about how my experiences paralleled some of his and what I did in those situations. Some had good outcomes, some took me a long time to dig out of. I think that connected with him to the point where he’s seeing value in that as well as seeing a different side of me now. To the point that he’s now with me full time.
I can’t go back and change stuff, but I can make it better going forward. It’s trending in the right direction.
Ok, I’ve probably babbled too much about me.
The overall point Dan had was about things coming at a cost. I’m happy for Dan because whatever refactoring he’s done in his life has resulted in a truly great guy now. He’s obviously an open book, because who else in the hunting world would do a podcast on their own personal shortcomings? Yeah, probably one guy. But while he said his past wasn’t perfect (and whose is?) it’s forged him into who he is now.
We can see the personality on various videos. I’d say it matches him in real life. But whatever forged him in the past led to something I appreciated a ton. Really was a great thing at the right time. I haven’t told the story until now and hopefully it’s ok to tell it. (This is now officially like a Rob Loper post )
As I mentioned, I went through a divorce that was settled this spring. Pretty much torched my scouting after snow melt, but life happens. Anyway, I was having a tough time seeing the sun through the clouds so to speak and mentioned in a post that this site has actually made a difference in my life to get me through those dark times. The thing he built. I was appreciative for sure, but still in a down period.
Fast forward a couple days or weeks and I get. PM out of the blue. Actually two. One was from Thwack in MS offering support. Was great. The other I got was from Dan. Wanted to know if I wanted to go river fishing with him as I didn’t live far away. Like now. I was free so of course I went.
The experience was obviously notable for the fact that a guy as busy as Dan would take some time out of his day to do that. Meant a TON. But it was notable for two other things. One minor thing is that Dan don’t fish like normal people. He hunts them with a fishing rod, balls deep in a cold river, stalking them in their environment wading upstream.
The second was that Dan that does smile a lot. These two pictures tell a story. They’re fuzzy because they’re from the famous flip phone. But we caught some nice fish. Check out his grin! Yep.
Now check out mine. I’m smiling, but you can’t tell all that much. I saw that and said to myself, dude, you gotta get over any dental hangups you had as a kid and smile more visibly because people notice the smile and not your two front teeth.
So I’m doing that more, realizing it makes a difference both to me and those around me.
And so does Dan. I can’t comment on the price he paid because only he and his family knows. But the guy he is today took the time out to pick a fellow beast up off the carpet. Really helped me get on a better trajectory. So that guy absolutely does make a difference.
None of us can change the past, but we CAN affect the future of others.
Dan’s proof of that.
Now he and I are in a different situation. That same situation I mentioned was a factor in my relatively recent divorce. He didn’t want anything to do with me for a while.
But perpetual drama is not part of my life anymore. I don’t know if I’ve settled down, but the constant stress of a match that wasn’t quite right is gone. I recognized why my approach was wrong and started talking to him more about how my experiences paralleled some of his and what I did in those situations. Some had good outcomes, some took me a long time to dig out of. I think that connected with him to the point where he’s seeing value in that as well as seeing a different side of me now. To the point that he’s now with me full time.
I can’t go back and change stuff, but I can make it better going forward. It’s trending in the right direction.
Ok, I’ve probably babbled too much about me.
The overall point Dan had was about things coming at a cost. I’m happy for Dan because whatever refactoring he’s done in his life has resulted in a truly great guy now. He’s obviously an open book, because who else in the hunting world would do a podcast on their own personal shortcomings? Yeah, probably one guy. But while he said his past wasn’t perfect (and whose is?) it’s forged him into who he is now.
We can see the personality on various videos. I’d say it matches him in real life. But whatever forged him in the past led to something I appreciated a ton. Really was a great thing at the right time. I haven’t told the story until now and hopefully it’s ok to tell it. (This is now officially like a Rob Loper post )
As I mentioned, I went through a divorce that was settled this spring. Pretty much torched my scouting after snow melt, but life happens. Anyway, I was having a tough time seeing the sun through the clouds so to speak and mentioned in a post that this site has actually made a difference in my life to get me through those dark times. The thing he built. I was appreciative for sure, but still in a down period.
Fast forward a couple days or weeks and I get. PM out of the blue. Actually two. One was from Thwack in MS offering support. Was great. The other I got was from Dan. Wanted to know if I wanted to go river fishing with him as I didn’t live far away. Like now. I was free so of course I went.
The experience was obviously notable for the fact that a guy as busy as Dan would take some time out of his day to do that. Meant a TON. But it was notable for two other things. One minor thing is that Dan don’t fish like normal people. He hunts them with a fishing rod, balls deep in a cold river, stalking them in their environment wading upstream.
The second was that Dan that does smile a lot. These two pictures tell a story. They’re fuzzy because they’re from the famous flip phone. But we caught some nice fish. Check out his grin! Yep.
Now check out mine. I’m smiling, but you can’t tell all that much. I saw that and said to myself, dude, you gotta get over any dental hangups you had as a kid and smile more visibly because people notice the smile and not your two front teeth.
So I’m doing that more, realizing it makes a difference both to me and those around me.
And so does Dan. I can’t comment on the price he paid because only he and his family knows. But the guy he is today took the time out to pick a fellow beast up off the carpet. Really helped me get on a better trajectory. So that guy absolutely does make a difference.
None of us can change the past, but we CAN affect the future of others.
Dan’s proof of that.
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https://youtu.be/d4tSE2w53ts
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It was a good podcast. Kudos to Carol for that love and commitment. I didn't really start getting addicted until recent years when I picked up a bow. My family is all grown up so I'm not taking anything away from family time. I wouldn't have been able to go completely overboard years ago. But different because I'm mom.
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Good stuff...our passions can and do cost us. Balance....Lucky, I did'nt get the bug until late in life,so kid time isn't big deal. They get out to gunhunt w/relatives and thats enough for them. I'd love to pull a Beast and hunt the whole season, every day......cant for multiple reasons. I see lots of young guys who have a tough time because its just not the season, its the whole thing...gear, scouting,....24/7 hunting/fishing. Balance...
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Guilty! When hunting season rolls around I’ve missed a lot and my wife and son are ok with it because they see my passion and love for it but I’m the one that carries the guilt of missing out. It’s just something I need though every year I am at peace when I’m hunting . My family always tells me I have no patience and can’t figure out how I can sit in a tree from dark till dark over and over again lol
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Great podcast!!! I been there, done that! but like dan said, i wouldn't probably change that now, cause i wouldnt be where i am today! The school of hard knocks sucks, but you learn some good life lessons there!
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