Deer/Cow's TC Pics
-
- Posts: 365
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 7:06 am
- Status: Offline
Deer/Cow's TC Pics
I remember we were discussing deer and cows not to long ago, and I checked a trail camera the other day and got these pictures. Now this is on some corn I threw out in front of my kid's ladder stand. The cows roam free on this property and stay in the woods from late evening to early morning, and move back to the fields during the day. Look at the times. Just thought it was a unique sequence.
-
- 500 Club
- Posts: 4186
- Joined: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:00 am
- Facebook: mheichelbech@gmail.com
- Location: Charlestown, IN
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
I wonder if the deer left because of the cow.
"One of the chief attractions of the life of the wilderness is its rugged and stalwart democracy; there every man stands for what he actually is and can show himself to be." — Theodore Roosevelt, 1893
- stash59
- Moderator
- Posts: 10078
- Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:22 am
- Location: S Central Wi.
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
mheichelbech wrote:I wonder if the deer left because of the cow.
My bet is a big yes. Watched it happen a couple of times from stand.
Happiness is a large gutpile!!!!!!!
- Stanley
- Honorary Moderator
- Posts: 18734
- Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:18 am
- Facebook: None
- Location: Iowa
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
mheichelbech wrote:I wonder if the deer left because of the cow.
Yep.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
-
- Posts: 365
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 7:06 am
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
I load the pictures from my iPhone to the gallery, and they are sideways, so I rotated and saved em. They appear straight when I pull the thread up from a computer but appear sideways when I pull the thread up from an IPhone
- Net Guy
- 500 Club
- Posts: 1407
- Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:18 pm
- Location: Milwaukee, WI
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
stash59 wrote:mheichelbech wrote:I wonder if the deer left because of the cow.
My bet is a big yes. Watched it happen a couple of times from stand.
Probably a dumb question here, but why would the deer be scared off by the cattle? I'd assume many of these deer spent their whole life around cattle. The only thing I can think of is that the cows defend their calves and get aggressive at times.
- stash59
- Moderator
- Posts: 10078
- Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:22 am
- Location: S Central Wi.
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
When personally I saw it they just took off. But I'm sure there was a reason. My logic was the cows were aggressive towards the deer in the past. The timing in the photos led me to believe the same thing in this case.
I've also witnessed the opposite. Deer grazing and moving through a herd of cattle like it was just another day out in the field. I think that deer may be more sensitive to cattle in tight quarters.
When I was little I loved it when my dad through me on the saddle in front of him. Then we'd ride our horse through the woods and drained marsh habitat. We'd get super close to deer. Even saw a couple of bucks. That when I look back on it. Were probably 3 YO's.
Great memories.
I've also witnessed the opposite. Deer grazing and moving through a herd of cattle like it was just another day out in the field. I think that deer may be more sensitive to cattle in tight quarters.
When I was little I loved it when my dad through me on the saddle in front of him. Then we'd ride our horse through the woods and drained marsh habitat. We'd get super close to deer. Even saw a couple of bucks. That when I look back on it. Were probably 3 YO's.
Great memories.
Happiness is a large gutpile!!!!!!!
- brancher147
- 500 Club
- Posts: 1414
- Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:46 am
- Location: West Virginia
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
Cows will and do scare deer off. And I typically do not see deer using pasture, as the cows usually eat up anything good that the deer would want to eat. I see deer in hay fields bordering pasture all the time, but not in the pasture with cows. Having cows free roaming on any property through the woodlots, will negatively impact the future of the forest and the suitability for wildlife species.
Some do. Some don't. I just might...
- Lockdown
- Moderator
- Posts: 9957
- Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:16 pm
- Location: MN
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
My experiences are they avoid them but aren't scared of them. Depending on # of head per acre cows gobble up all the good browse. Back in my SD days the gfp put some cattle on a public piece I frequented and deer sightings were down 75% so I left it be the rest of the year. Numbers were back up again the following year when they cattle weren't around.
Last fall I was putting a stalk on some mulies out West and some cows moved through. Bucks were bedded but walked off when the cows ambled by.
Last fall I was putting a stalk on some mulies out West and some cows moved through. Bucks were bedded but walked off when the cows ambled by.
-
- Posts: 365
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 7:06 am
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
brancher147 wrote:Cows will and do scare deer off. And I typically do not see deer using pasture, as the cows usually eat up anything good that the deer would want to eat. I see deer in hay fields bordering pasture all the time, but not in the pasture with cows. Having cows free roaming on any property through the woodlots, will negatively impact the future of the forest and the suitability for wildlife species.
This is definitely a misconception, especially if the woods are grazed properly. Cattle are actually beneficial in most cases, but not all. The NRCS in Louisiana has been doing studies for years, and very rarely do the negatively impact an environment if they are allowed free range, now pastures are different stories. Free range though on over a 1000 or more acres, they tend to roam like the buffalo once did and actually do some good to the native species being choked out by invasive species.
- stash59
- Moderator
- Posts: 10078
- Joined: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:22 am
- Location: S Central Wi.
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
BA-IV wrote:brancher147 wrote:Cows will and do scare deer off. And I typically do not see deer using pasture, as the cows usually eat up anything good that the deer would want to eat. I see deer in hay fields bordering pasture all the time, but not in the pasture with cows. Having cows free roaming on any property through the woodlots, will negatively impact the future of the forest and the suitability for wildlife species.
This is definitely a misconception, especially if the woods are grazed properly. Cattle are actually beneficial in most cases, but not all. The NRCS in Louisiana has been doing studies for years, and very rarely do the negatively impact an environment if they are allowed free range, now pastures are different stories. Free range though on over a 1000 or more acres, they tend to roam like the buffalo once did and actually do some good to the native species being choked out by invasive species.
Kinda depends on what part of the country your in. Or if it's a dry year. Seen pretty heavy damage sometimes. Others it was a huge benefit.
Happiness is a large gutpile!!!!!!!
- Stanley
- Honorary Moderator
- Posts: 18734
- Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:18 am
- Facebook: None
- Location: Iowa
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
BA-IV wrote:brancher147 wrote:Cows will and do scare deer off. And I typically do not see deer using pasture, as the cows usually eat up anything good that the deer would want to eat. I see deer in hay fields bordering pasture all the time, but not in the pasture with cows. Having cows free roaming on any property through the woodlots, will negatively impact the future of the forest and the suitability for wildlife species.
This is definitely a misconception, especially if the woods are grazed properly. Cattle are actually beneficial in most cases, but not all. The NRCS in Louisiana has been doing studies for years, and very rarely do the negatively impact an environment if they are allowed free range, now pastures are different stories. Free range though on over a 1000 or more acres, they tend to roam like the buffalo once did and actually do some good to the native species being choked out by invasive species.
In smaller wood lots cattle will and do demolish the understory. In the Midwest this is very common for cattle to completely pulverize the understory thus the deer cover is completely gone. If you have your timber in the state programs in Iowa you are not allowed to have cattle in the timber for this very reason.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
-
- Posts: 365
- Joined: Thu May 05, 2016 7:06 am
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
I could see in smaller wood lots where this could be a problem. NRCS manages how the cattle are rotated pretty intensely on the smaller wood lots if you are part of their program from what I understand to keep this from happening. Bigger wood lots it's not needed as much.
- bowfreak8
- 500 Club
- Posts: 599
- Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:58 am
- Status: Offline
Re: Deer/Cow's TC Pics
This is usually my experience. When cows move in the deer move out.
-
- Advertisement
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: TrendictionBot, UPSer207 and 41 guests