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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby headgear » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:34 pm

Stanley wrote:
Stanley wrote:Saw a good bunch of Buck movement on August 6th at 7 PM. Anyone know if this was a good moon time?

Turns out this was not a good moon time. :think:


If bucks only moved only on good moon days they would hardly move at all, kind of like the walking into the wind all the time theory. ;)


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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby Horizontal Hunter » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:51 pm

brancher147 wrote:Looking into this a little more, I found a website you can punch your zip into and get exact times. Pretty neat. I made some mistakes adjusting DK's time to EST and this site got me straightened out.

http://www.solunarforecast.com/solunarcalendar.aspx


I use the Deluxe moon app on my iPhone. It will give you the moons Zenith and Nadir (overhead and underfoot) based on you location among other info. I believe it was $2.99

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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby headgear » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:08 am

Dewey wrote:
Stanley wrote:Saw a good bunch of Buck movement on August 6th at 7 PM. Anyone know if this was a good moon time?

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Kind of interesting, I haven't paid much attention to the minor periods, might be something there. I will still probably focus on the majors but still interesting and something to keep an eye on.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby <DK> » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:08 am

NorthStar wrote:For the best morning dates, does this just mean bucks will be late coming back to bed?


Hypothetically and Ill give ya some of my exp...

They can make mistakes in Sept. My experiences are opening weekend can be ok. I have never heard anyone tell me they saw the biggest buck of their lives on opening morning. I have seasons of deer logs saying mornings suck early on. Oct 12-20 I'm praying for more light bc he's about to walk by or bust me, that varies. Twice seen bucks late to bed after grey light and both occasions were bc of fighting. Oct 12 2012 biggest buck of my life ran by IN grey light. I was nowhere near his bedding, if I was definitely would have been easy shooting light by time he got there. Nov 11 last season 2 shooters j hooked into a bedding area after grey light but they had just got done fighting eachother. Every experience will be different and set locations can determine what is seen. Most of those Oct bucks, I was setup on the edge of travel corridor and bedding, my plan is to move closer to bedding in hopes to get my top bow sight pin lit up just enough. IMO a successful morning buck bed hunt means not getting busted and getting to hunt that bed again.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby NorthStar » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:34 am

Darkknight54 wrote:
NorthStar wrote:For the best morning dates, does this just mean bucks will be late coming back to bed?


Hypothetically and Ill give ya some of my exp...

They can make mistakes in Sept. My experiences are opening weekend can be ok. I have never heard anyone tell me they saw the biggest buck of their lives on opening morning. I have seasons of deer logs saying mornings suck early on. Oct 12-20 I'm praying for more light bc he's about to walk by or bust me, that varies. Twice seen bucks late to bed after grey light and both occasions were bc of fighting. Oct 12 2012 biggest buck of my life ran by IN grey light. I was nowhere near his bedding, if I was definitely would have been easy shooting light by time he got there. Nov 11 last season 2 shooters j hooked into a bedding area after grey light but they had just got done fighting eachother. Every experience will be different and set locations can determine what is seen. Most of those Oct bucks, I was setup on the edge of travel corridor and bedding, my plan is to move closer to bedding in hopes to get my top bow sight pin lit up just enough. IMO a successful morning buck bed hunt means not getting busted and getting to hunt that bed again.


Thanks for sharing! This is fascinating stuff. So what I am hearing is, fighting and moon could be the primary factors on why some bucks come back to bed late during that Oct 12-20 time frame.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

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NorthStar wrote:
Darkknight54 wrote:
NorthStar wrote:For the best morning dates, does this just mean bucks will be late coming back to bed?


Hypothetically and Ill give ya some of my exp...

They can make mistakes in Sept. My experiences are opening weekend can be ok. I have never heard anyone tell me they saw the biggest buck of their lives on opening morning. I have seasons of deer logs saying mornings suck early on. Oct 12-20 I'm praying for more light bc he's about to walk by or bust me, that varies. Twice seen bucks late to bed after grey light and both occasions were bc of fighting. Oct 12 2012 biggest buck of my life ran by IN grey light. I was nowhere near his bedding, if I was definitely would have been easy shooting light by time he got there. Nov 11 last season 2 shooters j hooked into a bedding area after grey light but they had just got done fighting eachother. Every experience will be different and set locations can determine what is seen. Most of those Oct bucks, I was setup on the edge of travel corridor and bedding, my plan is to move closer to bedding in hopes to get my top bow sight pin lit up just enough. IMO a successful morning buck bed hunt means not getting busted and getting to hunt that bed again.


Thanks for sharing! This is fascinating stuff. So what I am hearing is, fighting and moon could be the primary factors on why some bucks come back to bed late during that Oct 12-20 time frame.


It all varies man.... everyones experiences are different but in general yes - rut activities seem to be the best way to hold him up from his normal schedule. You just gotta dive in and see what works best for you or your specific situations or terrain. Every year I find that there is one day in those date ranges when ill see one mess up, gets things kick started and be later than just grey light. Which to me means the pre-rut has begun. Usually thats is my first sighting or observation or indicator that its time. Could even be someones story about a buck encounter from down the road or I see shooter bucks cross the road one morning in grey light. But then the following week a deer passes by before I can see what it is... Waiting till later Oct-Early Nov isnt a bad idea, I just love chasing them and cant resist! :mrgreen: Have fun w it! Treat your best beds for what they are, if you get fed up dive in. Im planning to just start sitting over more beds in higher elevation ridges and seeing how fun that is. However, many of these cases of hunting the AM can be for different reasons. Maybe hes on the line and I have to hunt him coming back to my side of the line. Maybe bc of thermals or access I just cant get in on him for the evening. The point is, all this is me forcing the issue so sometimes it just wont always work out. Evenings are where its at for bed hunting.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby Stanley » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:41 am

headgear wrote:
Stanley wrote:
Stanley wrote:Saw a good bunch of Buck movement on August 6th at 7 PM. Anyone know if this was a good moon time?

Turns out this was not a good moon time. :think:


If bucks only moved only on good moon days they would hardly move at all, kind of like the walking into the wind all the time theory. ;)


No argument from me on that. One thing I also got to thinking about. The bucks That I saw were batched up in one area I checked. The other areas were void of bucks. So the moon chart was accurate in the areas with no bucks? The reason I wanted to check on the moon chart was because this was the largest bachelor group of bucks I have ever seen in all my years of hunting/scouting. :think:
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby headgear » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:55 am

It might not mean anything stan, maybe those bucks were bedding closer to the field, maybe others weren't, impossible to say for sure. Did you see a lot of other deer? I know we focus a lot on bucks here but the whole moon thing is about deer movement in general but in your area if you have a lot of deer it might be harder to see results. Up here where the herd thins out considerably it can be like night and day.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby SMS79 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:56 am

I was searching online a couple of months back about the moon affecting buck movement and ran across this radio collar study that had been conducted to test the accuracy of solunar forecast tables. Turns out JoeRE had seen and posted on the same research project:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36561&hilit=moon+telemetry#p521145

What I took away from the study was that there is an affect on deer movement from the moon...although that doesn't necessarily mean that movement happens in front of my stand. :lol:

Without going into all the nitty-gritty, the study showed a general increase in activity/movement that peaked at Overhead & Underfoot times around the first and last Quarter moons and Moonrise and Moonset times around the Full and New moons. As it pertains to solunar tables, this results in the solunar table forecasts being spot on half of the time and...we'll say misleading....half of the time. The study goes into more detail about this and says it has a lot to do with terminology. For example, "Minor feed times" correspond with moon rise & set in those charts, but per the study, on days close to the full and new moons the increased activity was greatest around the moon rise & set times, therefore the "minor feed times" would be better than the "major feed times" on those days....hence misleading terminology.

Back to the content of this thread, to get the "Moon Dates", I've been taking these two rules of thumb (if you will) and circling dates on the calendar where these conditions align close to sunrise or sunset. And as someone mentioned, I've already got September 20th circled. :L:
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby PredatorTC » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:48 pm

Darkknight54 wrote:Well, hope I made minimal mistakes here. I only choose times within (roughly) 90min of daylight/shooting light. All moon days are leaning heavier to before sunrise and before sunset. Rut cruising times do not include any times outside of shooting light.

**Central Time Zone - Adjust Times Based On Location**

*Mornings:
Sept - 15(Maybe), 26,27,28,29
Oct - 11,12,13,26,27,28,29,30
Nov - 9,10,11,12,13,25,26,27,28

*Evenings:
Sept - 25,26,27,28
Oct - 9,10,11,12,13,24,25,26,27
Nov - 7,8,9,10,11,23,24,25,26

*Both/Best:
Sep - 26,27,28
Oct - 11,12,13,27
Nov - 9,10,11,25,26

*Rut Cruising Times:
Oct 25 - 5:33pm
Oct 26 - 6:21pm
Oct 27 - 6:45am
Oct 28 - 7:33am
Oct 29 - 8:20am
Oct 30 - 9:08am
Oct 31 - 9:56am
Nov 1 - 10:45am
Nov 2 - 11:35am
Nov 3 - 12:28pm
Nov 4 - 1:24pm
Nov 5 - 1:22pm
Nov 6 - 2:22pm
Nov 7 - 3:30pm
Nov 8 - 4:23pm
Nov 9 - 5:21pm
Nov 10 - 5:50am/6:16pm
Nov 11 - 6:42am
Nov 12 - 7:32am
Nov 13 - 8:20am
Nov 14 - 9:06am
Nov 15 - 9:51am
Nov 16 - 10:36am
Nov 17 - 11:21am
Nov 18 - 12:07pm
Nov 19 - 12:53pm
Nov 20 - 1:40pm


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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby BigHunt » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:08 am

PredatorTC wrote:
Darkknight54 wrote:Well, hope I made minimal mistakes here. I only choose times within (roughly) 90min of daylight/shooting light. All moon days are leaning heavier to before sunrise and before sunset. Rut cruising times do not include any times outside of shooting light.

**Central Time Zone - Adjust Times Based On Location**

*Mornings:
Sept - 15(Maybe), 26,27,28,29
Oct - 11,12,13,26,27,28,29,30
Nov - 9,10,11,12,13,25,26,27,28

*Evenings:
Sept - 25,26,27,28
Oct - 9,10,11,12,13,24,25,26,27
Nov - 7,8,9,10,11,23,24,25,26

*Both/Best:
Sep - 26,27,28
Oct - 11,12,13,27
Nov - 9,10,11,25,26

*Rut Cruising Times:
Oct 25 - 5:33pm
Oct 26 - 6:21pm
Oct 27 - 6:45am
Oct 28 - 7:33am
Oct 29 - 8:20am
Oct 30 - 9:08am
Oct 31 - 9:56am
Nov 1 - 10:45am
Nov 2 - 11:35am
Nov 3 - 12:28pm
Nov 4 - 1:24pm
Nov 5 - 1:22pm
Nov 6 - 2:22pm
Nov 7 - 3:30pm
Nov 8 - 4:23pm
Nov 9 - 5:21pm
Nov 10 - 5:50am/6:16pm
Nov 11 - 6:42am
Nov 12 - 7:32am
Nov 13 - 8:20am
Nov 14 - 9:06am
Nov 15 - 9:51am
Nov 16 - 10:36am
Nov 17 - 11:21am
Nov 18 - 12:07pm
Nov 19 - 12:53pm
Nov 20 - 1:40pm


Thank you!

And I bet TC WILL STILL ask me when the good moon times are ... :mrgreen:
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby vtbuck » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:08 am

Wouldn't it be nice if they could give you moon kill times for every date.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby Jhand » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:19 am

I found this site yesterday and it's completely free and you can look up a month at a time. Not as detailed as some site's but give you moon rise and set times
http://www.sunrisesunset.com
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby tgreeno » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:01 pm

huntstand has them also, under weather. I just started using that on my PC.
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Re: 2017 Moon Dates

Unread postby Southerntundra » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:24 pm

Stanley wrote:Saw a good bunch of Buck movement on August 6th at 7 PM. Anyone know if this was a good moon time?


I also had the most big buck movement on my cameras on august 6th at 3:30. Bachelor group of 5 came in and haven't seen them since.


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