whitetailassasin wrote:Sam Ubl wrote:I guess I'm a little distracted by this thread and the public criticism of some young guys doing what they love and sharing it with the public, albeit opening yourself up to the public eye invites criticism. I'll offer this key point...
- You're putting yourself on a pedestal by criticizing another who attempted to do the same thing you're setting off to do. Be humble.
I had to shake my head at the comment earlier pointing out a shaky lens in the production. You should have been with me on opening day of Wisconsin's firearms season operating the camera in 25-MPH winds during a wet blizzard snowfall. Even the steadiest of hands can't avoid a shaky lens filming with fingers exposed to dial in the zoom, focus, and record button during conditions like that. I suppose the semi-shaky footage was less distracting then getting motion sick had we kept the camera locked onto the Hunting Beast Camera Arm I had set up on that swinging tree no thanks to the wind.
I, too, enjoy joining the hunter on the path he/she took to get there in addition to the actual kill and recovery, but it's not for everyone. MWP chose a path of producing more along the lines of entertainment. While it had a couple of you leaving early from the screening, it had the majority clapping and entertained. Point is, you can't please everyone.
One more thing to consider is that success is far less likely to be repeated based on pure luck. It seems unfair to suggest those young guys had no intel on the bucks they were hunting, paid no mind to the wind, only sat pre-hung sets, and as if no work, scouting or pre-planning went into those hunts. It also seems unnecessary to film a guy checking the wind on each and every hunt. Like, "Hey, there goes another milkweed seed", or "Hey, can you record me squeezing this wind checker tube of powder"? Yawn... What's with the need to prove you "know what you're doing" just because you share your hunt on film? Isn't it proof in the pudding when you see them score on a successful hunt? What's more sad is that to some public opinion, the hunt isn't successful unless the buck is overly impressive.
I suppose the idea of publicly bashing a production will only draw comparisons to that of your own. There are better ways of holding ones self accountable to be "better".
First of all I didn't once mention anyone's name on here or in any of my posts. I gave my opinion as well as the opinion of my partner. Seems you are "friends" of such guys, how would you know who clapped or whatnot. We stayed until the end and where there. You completely have no clue what your talking about and have a biased opinion. And I'll refrain from getting into this with you because every point I brought up was valid and not only my own but someone watching the same thing as we did. I'm not at all putting myself on a pedestal nor do I want any acclaim. I want to do this to help people, and I feel I can. You sir can shake your head and think what you want, your entitled to do so. But your need to come on this thread and state your opinion, completely contradicts your stance because I was giving my opinion as well and not once did i mention who it was or anything of that nature, but you sir decided to personally attack me publicly. Anytine you want to have a discussion with me you can pm me or call I'll give you my direct line. I stand behind my comments and I can tell you because I spoke with the president and also his right hand man, and they had no clue about thermals, map reading, and many other things. Not once in that video was there anything I feel could help the average person kill a deer or public land. I heard statements from this young man and judged for myself based on his points of view and asked questions after the video to hear his answers. Maybe next time you decide to jump into this discussion you will come properly prepared.
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whitetailassasin wrote:[glow=red]Bayshore sent me a text saying if there's an intermission lets go! I was literally texting the same thing![/glow]I won a hat(womens pink I gave to a littke girl)and tshirt, I gave both away one to a little girl the shirt back to the president when I told him we weren't interested in joining them. He asked why, and I said you really don't want to know. He said no really...so I told him...he looked at me with a blank stare and snobbishly said I'd like to see you guys do it better. A part of me wanted to fire back with some pictures of deer and information, or even with how shaky there footage was but I simply said you guys just aren't what we are looking for. [glow=red]I barely got out the door and Bayshore and I started laughing and just pointing out things[/glow]. A little buck they shot, bad shot, died in a classic bed, you could see the rubs, downed tree behind and the actual bed...we noticed it immediately, they had no clue. That's what Dan Infalt and the BEAST has done to two Michigan boys(and many more all over). I just feel blessed!![ Post made via iPhone ]
Really, I don't know anyone from MWP personally, but it wasn't hard to figure out with the reference to Michigan by someone and the live screening. I wouldn't jump to so many conclusions all at once. I think it's best if you pump the breaks and try to understand the point here. I think it's great you're setting out to do something great with filming and that you were able to take away from someone elses production what you could see angles of doing differently, but it's not cool to call anyone out and I think the post above sums up what you're denying pretty well. Case closed?