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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby Milk Weed Seed » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:43 pm

Bowhunting Brian wrote:Buy the book "Mapping Trophy Bucks" by Brad Herndon. It's a great read and deals a lot with using a topo map and terrain features. He explains all the features your wanting to know about.

X2 great suggestion!! That book is a great read, filled good information.
This thread really covers some main points in greater detail with AN's maps on here.

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Unread postby justdirtyfun » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:18 am

Outstanding thread for hill country. Thank you AutumnNinja for sharing a detailed breakdown of that map. This is my first scouting season and you made my day...week . Hope your season went well.

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Unread postby trapper57 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:55 pm

Excellent lesson here in addition to the hill country DVD.
I feel my scouting this year will be a lot more productive.
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Unread postby OH nontypical » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:21 pm

Excellent post and explanation, I had to look it over several times to get it. Amazing how when you really look at a topo the land features really pop out in hill country.
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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby oldrank » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:55 am

Cool thread. Thanks for sharing the info !!!!! Learned a lot here.
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Unread postby bigwoodsmn » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:07 pm

I ordered "Mapping Trophy Bucks"

I'm starting to treat topos posted by members as quizzes...make some marks and look at the responses of others.

If I get good at predicting likely bedding on ridges that will give me a game plan for still-hunting just above likely buck bedding areas.
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Unread postby PLB » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:10 pm

bigwoodsmn wrote:I ordered "Mapping Trophy Bucks"

I'm starting to treat topos posted by members as quizzes...make some marks and look at the responses of others.

If I get good at predicting likely bedding on ridges that will give me a game plan for still-hunting just above likely buck bedding areas.

Great book you'll love it! Great idea on marking up the maps like a quiz!! 8-)

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Unread postby OH nontypical » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:20 pm

bigwoodsmn wrote:I ordered "Mapping Trophy Bucks"

I'm starting to treat topos posted by members as quizzes...make some marks and look at the responses of others.

If I get good at predicting likely bedding on ridges that will give me a game plan for still-hunting just above likely buck bedding areas.

I do a similar thing. When someone posts a map asking for help I try to pick the most likely beds before Dan or other more experienced beasts mark it. I then compare to see how I did. Sometimes really good sometimes not as good but a great learning tool.

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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby PK_ » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:43 pm

Wow.

This is the first time I checked back into this thread since page 1.

Autumn Ninja- Tons of respect.

If/when I get to hunt hill country you just cut my learning curve down even further from the hill HCB DVD, which I didn't think was possible.

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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby mheichelbech » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:18 am

Awesome thread, wanted to bump this up in relation to the one I had just recently started. One thing I am not certain of is would the direction of the food source make much difference in relation to the where the buck would bed? I would think that like any living creature, especially an older one like a mature buck, that they will seek to expend the least amount of energy possible, especially early season, while also bedding in the most secure location. In early season when it is hot, if not highly pressured, would they tend to bed in a way that sacrifices security in favor of expending less energy, i.e., less of a walk or an easier walk to an ag field or does security and wind detection almost always trump everything else? I say almost always because i know there are no certainties in mature buck hunting.
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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby Bucky » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:40 am

mheichelbech wrote:Awesome thread, wanted to bump this up in relation to the one I had just recently started. One thing I am not certain of is would the direction of the food source make much difference in relation to the where the buck would bed? I would think that like any living creature, especially an older one like a mature buck, that they will seek to expend the least amount of energy possible, especially early season, while also bedding in the most secure location. In early season when it is hot, if not highly pressured, would they tend to bed in a way that sacrifices security in favor of expending less energy, i.e., less of a walk or an easier walk to an ag field or does security and wind detection almost always trump everything else? I say almost always because i know there are no certainties in mature buck hunting.


I think in summer and winter deer will relocate bedding... (that is why bucks tend to have different summer ranges vs fall) but once hunting pressure kicks in secuirity trumps all and they will travel LONG distances bed to food
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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby BassBoysLLP » Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:10 am

Bucky wrote:
mheichelbech wrote:Awesome thread, wanted to bump this up in relation to the one I had just recently started. One thing I am not certain of is would the direction of the food source make much difference in relation to the where the buck would bed? I would think that like any living creature, especially an older one like a mature buck, that they will seek to expend the least amount of energy possible, especially early season, while also bedding in the most secure location. In early season when it is hot, if not highly pressured, would they tend to bed in a way that sacrifices security in favor of expending less energy, i.e., less of a walk or an easier walk to an ag field or does security and wind detection almost always trump everything else? I say almost always because i know there are no certainties in mature buck hunting.


I think in summer and winter deer will relocate bedding... (that is why bucks tend to have different summer ranges vs fall) but once hunting pressure kicks in secuirity trumps all and they will travel LONG distances bed to food


I generally agree. Only exception is late October - End of November when staging beds pick up use; however predicting use is very difficult without obervation due to nomadic nature of bucks during this period. Some bucks will always pick security.

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Re: Topographical terms and descriptions

Unread postby woody-san » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:08 am

Before I say anything else, this is a gem of a thread! This sent me on a topo/aerial photo bender, all week!

Question:

Do you guys think that bucks will do, for lack of a better term, "hub hopping"? What I mean is, say you have a series of these high crow's feet between where a buck beds and a bean field 1 mile away. Looking at some topos showing this sort of set up, I'm thinking a buck could hang out in a thermal hub then take the shortest/easiest route up and out of that hub and into the next one. From a buck's perspective, it seems like they could hop, hub to hub, until they reach food, using the falling evening thermals in each hub to get scent info. Seems it could work for the buck, regardless of prevailing wind direction.


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