I call him the Old Non-Typical...

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I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Tue May 25, 2010 12:40 pm

Hey guys,

I wanted to share with you an odd buck that I have had a couple of encounters with. I nearly took his life on January 2 of this year, but a wind swirl saved his life. He is not the biggest buck, but he had full velvet on a snow laden evening in january!!! That would have been an awesome mount for sure. Anyone ever seen this? This was a first for me and I'm guessing he injured his testicles somewhere along the way. He is super secretive and really intelligent; I am wondering if he even took part in the rut since his hormone production is out of whack.

This deer kinda confuses me because I think he might be really old and going down in antler potential. I am going to post a series of photos and the first is the oldest I have of him; this is either the same buck but lost antler mass as he aged, or it's one of his offspring. What you guys think?


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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Tue May 25, 2010 12:42 pm

The oldest pic is actually the last one. He has the most antler in this pic. Taken in 07'

Notice in the second photo it is in October and the velvet on the bucks rack. :D
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby dan » Tue May 25, 2010 1:28 pm

looks like an antlered doe to me... Cool pick. That would make a great mount. If it is a buck, your not going to get any rutting activity out of him cause he lacks testosterone.
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Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Tue May 25, 2010 1:30 pm

Yeah he is a spooky devil. I had him coming right under my stand when he sensed a whiff of me and locked up before i could get a shot at him :( I was so close... He is a really big bodied animal so i assume he is or WAS male :)
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby Wrinkleneck » Wed May 26, 2010 12:53 am

Very interesting to say the least!!
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby Black Squirrel » Wed May 26, 2010 2:58 am

Cool, It sure would make a nice mount!
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby Boo » Wed May 26, 2010 1:12 pm

That would be awesome! Go get it this year!
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Unread postby PredatorTC » Thu May 27, 2010 12:27 am

That looks sweet! I Hope you get him!!
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby publiclandhunter » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:23 am

Cool story. I have always heard that abuck that lacks a teste or a doe with too much of a hormone imbalance will look like this. Only you can solve that mystery with an arrow this coming fall. Can't wait to see more pics of the big-guy in velvet!

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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:32 am

publiclandhunter wrote:Cool story. I have always heard that abuck that lacks a teste or a doe with too much of a hormone imbalance will look like this. Only you can solve that mystery with an arrow this coming fall. Can't wait to see more pics of the big-guy in velvet!

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Thanks :D I am excited to put my cameras out at the end of July and see what this thing turns into.
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby Sam Ubl » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:52 am

Where are you guys getting a look at his undercarriage?? Not sure how a weird rack constitutes as a doe...
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:41 am

Sam Ubl wrote:Where are you guys getting a look at his undercarriage?? Not sure how a weird rack constitutes as a doe...


This buck had velvet clear into January, so either he is an injured Male or a very rare doe that grows velvet antlers only. Testosterone allows the tender velvet rack of a buck to harden into bone; If it is a male, he probably injured his testicles somewhere along the way :shock: If its a doe she lacks the testeosterone to turn antler velvet into bone.

I think it's a buck because of his body size. Also, He/It was with a subordinate buck when I had my last encounter with him.....but you never know :)
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby dan » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:40 am

Sam Ubl wrote:
Where are you guys getting a look at his undercarriage?? Not sure how a weird rack constitutes as a doe...


Wnen does grow antlers the antlers don't harden and stay in velvet because of the lack of testosterone in does.
I have seen three velvet antlered does in the wild two were confirmed with nursing fawns and the 3rd suspected because it was with two fawns and no doe in site... But I have never seen a buck lacking testicals, although that too would cause this.
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Re: I call him the Old Non-Typical...

Unread postby Sam Ubl » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:53 am

Wow, see, that's what this site does... Teaches something every day. Good lessons, thanks gentleman.
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