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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby virginiashadow » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:28 pm

You know what Zap, I just rethought what I posted....ONLY 7% of the total deer kill rate was from bowhunters. My original math was correct on that about 1 in 30 hunters kills a buck with a bow, however I was wrong in claiming that only 1 in 30 bowhunters kill a deer because I did not take into account the gun hunters. I did it over and about 25% of ALL bowhunters kill a deer, which means about 10%-15% of all bowhunters kill a buck each year. I was off.


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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:38 pm

Missouri:

2011-18,387 bucks.......177,016 archery permits issued.
So thats a little more than 10%.

The buck #'s below are for all hunters, any weapon.

Buck harvest is always a topic of great interest to Missouri hunters. Missouri has a three-buck limit, meaning that hunters may harvest two bucks on archery permits and one buck on a firearms permit. In 2010, 19 percent of deer hunters harvested a buck. Fewer than 4,500 harvested two bucks, and only 194 harvested three bucks.







2010-16,011.

2009-16,986.

2008-16,434.

2007-14,475.

Now if I could only figure out how to find out how many archery permits were issued for each year......
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:39 pm

virginiashadow wrote:You know what Zap, I just rethought what I posted....ONLY 7% of the total deer kill rate was from bowhunters. My original math was correct on that about 1 in 30 hunters kills a buck with a bow, however I was wrong in claiming that only 1 in 30 bowhunters kill a deer because I did not take into account the gun hunters. I did it over and about 25% of ALL bowhunters kill a deer, which means about 10%-15% of all bowhunters kill a buck each year. I was off.



Cool, thanks alot.

I am just curious about this and I believe others are also.
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby virginiashadow » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:47 pm

I believe we had about 15,500 bowkills in 2010 and 17,000 in 2009. After that I am lost.
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Dor » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:59 pm

A percent would be calculated like so 1 buck killed per 4 hunters afield=25% success rate (1/4=25%).
Here is some MN % success rates that I found.

Minnesota Success Fun Facts

Archery from 1993(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents

16.1
16.1
16.8
17.1
16.2
15.2
15.8
17.411
17.1
19.2
22.3
29.2
24.6
24.8
24.3
18.5
17.5 ------resident licenses sold 88,707




Mn Muzzleloader from 2000(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents.

37.989
34.5
29.8
44.7
37.6
47.4
39.6
28.2
13.4
11.3------resident 63,282 licenses sold

regular firearms Mn from 1993(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents.

40
37.1
40.1
29.8
27.8
31.4
34.8
38.6
37.9
37.349
39.7
37.8
34.3
37.3
37.1
35.1
32.1------resident licenses sold 377,077
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:01 pm

Dor wrote:A percent would be calculated like so 1 buck killed per 4 hunters afield=25% success rate (1/4=25%).
Here is some MN % success rates that I found.

Minnesota Success Fun Facts

Archery from 1993(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents

16.1
16.1
16.8
17.1
16.2
15.2
15.8
17.411
17.1
19.2
22.3
29.2
24.6
24.8
24.3
18.5
17.5 ------resident licenses sold 88,707




Mn Muzzleloader from 2000(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents.

37.989
34.5
29.8
44.7
37.6
47.4
39.6
28.2
13.4
11.3------resident 63,282 licenses sold

regular firearms Mn from 1993(top) to 2009(bottom) in percents.

40
37.1
40.1
29.8
27.8
31.4
34.8
38.6
37.9
37.349
39.7
37.8
34.3
37.3
37.1
35.1
32.1------resident licenses sold 377,077



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Unread postby JV NC » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:05 pm

NC doesn't publish Bowhunter No.'s. So, it would be a complete guess. If I had to guess, I'd say less than 5% kill a branch-antlered buck. Brutal honesty would have me guess lower than that.

We killed 4,811 total antlered bucks in 2010-2011 season. If you figure 1/3 of our state's hunters are bowhunters, that's less than 5% success rate. Now, discount the non branch antlered bucks from the 4,811 -- and the number goes down. Now, figure a lot of those 4,811 were killed by guys taking multiple bucks. The number goes down, still.

I hear a bunch of talk about killing bucks. But, I don't see much actual killing of bucks.

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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:08 pm

Thanks, JNVC.

I wish Kansas kept some kind of record of harvest.

Missouri does a very good job of that.

http://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/repo ... st-seasons
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Unread postby Dor » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:12 pm

For KS found this.
"2008 Archery Harvest as reported by Bowhunter Magazine was 18,712 deer killed by archers (KDWP has no idea where this number came from) and they claim a 50% bowhunter success rate for 2008 and I am sure it was higher for 2009 but I couldnt find the link. They also claim 23,745 bowhunters in 2008. I have asked many times where KDWP has come up with harvest totals and have never gotten a response."
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Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:15 pm

Dor wrote:For KS found this.
"2008 Archery Harvest as reported by Bowhunter Magazine was 18,712 deer killed by archers (KDWP has no idea where this number came from) and they claim a 50% bowhunter success rate for 2008 and I am sure it was higher for 2009 but I couldnt find the link. They also claim 23,745 bowhunters in 2008. I have asked many times where KDWP has come up with harvest totals and have never gotten a response."



They have no idea.
There is not system set up to report a kill.

Thats a discrace IMO.
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:17 pm

The local "special hunt" has a 10-15% success rate on any deer.

This is a very target rich environment. :mrgreen:
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby Stanley » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:26 pm

After reading the stats from the DNR Looks like about 12.3 % of the bowhunters took antlered bucks in 2010 Like I posted earlier the guys I know are at about 50 %. they are serious hunters and do much better than average.
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Unread postby Black Squirrel » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:24 am

From the dozen or so that I know I would say 1-3 of us kill a buck a year. Most, including me pass a lot of year and a halfs each year. I think if those hunters wanted to kill any buck, just about all of them could kill a buck each year.
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Unread postby jlh42581 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:28 am

I keep up with 4 guys besides myself locally. One shot a buck in archery, one shot one in rifle. Both 1.5 yr olds
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Re: Whats the %?

Unread postby G3s » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:46 am

I would say that the success rate around here is pretty high, probably 50% or more...but it is not a real hard task to shoot a 1 1/2 old buck and the vast majority of the people I know shoot the 1st one they see.


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