Is this "fair chase".

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Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:33 pm

Large property, alot of timber, new to you.

You have exclusive hunting rights, except for the trespassers... :lol:

You come to realize that there is a very old, very big, very smart buck living in a more remote area of the timber.
You spring scout his beds, they are pretty impregnable...
Impossible to get close to unnoticed.
He is pretty much nocturnal, except for what he can see/smell/hear from his beds.

Your plan is to select a spot that you can get to and hunt him with a wind direction that is fairly common.
If he does not show the stand allows entrance/exit that he most likley will not travel and takes your scent stream away from his travel routes.

You choose to lure him there in shooting light with alot of bait scattered around that area.


Would it work?
Is it the best method?
Is it a "fair chase" scenario?


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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Stanley » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:36 pm

Can't bait in Iowa, so no it would not be legal.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:36 pm

Lets say you are hunting where you can bait.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby magicman54494 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:39 pm

Ah.... the good old bait debait. I'm not taking the bait. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:41 pm

:whistle:
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Hodag Hunter » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:41 pm

Yeah, no kidding. Pick a different topic that hasn't been beaten to death.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:48 pm

Very effective method in that situation.....
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby magicman54494 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:00 pm

Baiting can be a very effective method....... if done right. If it's legal then whether it's fair chase or not is up to the individual.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:57 pm

I concur.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Stanley » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:13 pm

I would say no not fair chase. But strictly my opinion.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:21 pm

Stanley wrote:I would say no not fair chase. But strictly my opinion.



Appreciate your opinion.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Czabs » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:08 pm

That's fair chase in my book

Would I put a baitpile out?....MAYBE during late season if I had my own land

Do I think it is easier to kill a big buck with a bait pile?...No, but It is obviously easier to kill A deer over a bait pile.

To each their own.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:42 pm

Czabs wrote:That's fair chase in my book

Would I put a baitpile out?....MAYBE during late season if I had my own land

Do I think it is easier to kill a big buck with a bait pile?...No, but It is obviously easier to kill A deer over a bait pile.

To each their own.



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Are you interpeting/defining the scenario I proposed as a "bait pile".
I just want to be sure that we can understand your opinion.

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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:57 pm

Hodag Hunter wrote:Yeah, no kidding. Pick a different topic that hasn't been beaten to death.



I believe that we can have a civil discussion of that scenario on this forum.

Would it work?
Is it the best method?
Is it a "fair chase" scenario?

Maybe I should have worded the first post better...in fact I will edit it now.
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Re: Is this "fair chase".

Unread postby Kodiakman » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:27 pm

Would it work?- Maybe.

Is it the best method?- No. I have come to the conclucion after my own expirences and reading that thee perfect bunker for a mature buck is, like you said, impregnible. That's why he's there. However I believe the perfect storm is a very rare occurance but if it happens....Set up on a excape path and have someone bump him to you quitely and slowly. Let the old fella think he's sneaking away. Then wack'm. He might not get up for a long time after dark, that just may be his style(and why he got that old).

Is it a "fair chase" scenario?- Definately yes, but I think an old buck is too smart to come into a baitpile during light hours, regardless of proximity. A food plot late season is a different story.
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