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How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:00 am

Opinions wanted.

Same ? about gun hunters.

Please answer so as to address the two types of hunters seperatly. :mrgreen:


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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby BackWoodsHunter » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:03 am

I would think the number of deer lost is higher with bowhunters, it just happens not every deer is recovered not every shot is perfect. It stinks. However, I think bowhunters put in a greater effort to recover their deer.

I think there are a lot of gun hunters who won't put in the effort to look for a deer if it doesn't drop or runs off out of sight. It's an assumed miss. Its easier to recover a deer that is shot with a 30-06 than a bow, but that also leads to laziness on the part of SOME people.
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby JRM6868 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:20 am

BackWoodsHunter wrote:I would think the number of deer lost is higher with bowhunters, it just happens not every deer is recovered not every shot is perfect. It stinks. However, I think bowhunters put in a greater effort to recover their deer.

I think there are a lot of gun hunters who won't put in the effort to look for a deer if it doesn't drop or runs off out of sight. It's an assumed miss. Its easier to recover a deer that is shot with a 30-06 than a bow, but that also leads to laziness on the part of SOME people.

I actually think more deer are lost with gun than bow. There's more gun than bow hunters. Gun hunters take shots that they shouldn't through brush because they think a bullet isn't affected and will cut through it. Deer drives are shooting deer running away from them and they're just throwing lead at the deer and hope they hit it. They shoot farther distances and don't necessarily find the exact spot the deer was standing and don't find blood and they assume they miss. Bowhunters are closer to their target, less of them and can relatively get to the exact spot they shot to look for blood. And I agree I think Bowhunters put forth more effort to retrieve the animal.

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Stanley » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:28 am

JRM6868 wrote:
BackWoodsHunter wrote:I would think the number of deer lost is higher with bowhunters, it just happens not every deer is recovered not every shot is perfect. It stinks. However, I think bowhunters put in a greater effort to recover their deer.

I think there are a lot of gun hunters who won't put in the effort to look for a deer if it doesn't drop or runs off out of sight. It's an assumed miss. Its easier to recover a deer that is shot with a 30-06 than a bow, but that also leads to laziness on the part of SOME people.

I actually think more deer are lost with gun than bow. There's more gun than bow hunters. Gun hunters take shots that they shouldn't through brush because they think a bullet isn't affected and will cut through it. Deer drives are shooting deer running away from them and they're just throwing lead at the deer and hope they hit it. They shoot farther distances and don't necessarily find the exact spot the deer was standing and don't find blood and they assume they miss. Bowhunters are closer to their target, less of them and can relatively get to the exact spot they shot to look for blood. And I agree I think Bowhunters put forth more effort to retrieve the animal.

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Dewey » Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:42 am

I have seen way more deer injured by gun hunters than bowhunters. Like was said this is a product of deer drives and people taking running shots and other low percentage shots a bowhunter would never even think of taking.

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Spysar » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:27 am

I have shot deer I never found.

But I don't know if I killed them or not.
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby dan » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:34 am

I know I have shot deer I have killed and have not recovered... I think most hunters have.
I believe gun hunters lose a lot more than bow hunters. I often see gun hunters taking low percentage shots and never looking to see if they hit or not. On deer drives you see shots fired at deer running and guys never looking for blood, or halfheartedly looking. I think by nature a bowhunter is more knowledgeable on average than a gun hunter. He probably has been a gun hunter and advanced into bow hunting.
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby hammered 16 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:47 am

I always look and make sure I didn't hit the deer or I didn't wound the deer with a gun we do deer drives I used to wound deer with a 20 gauge shot so I got a 12 ga I find 90 percent of what I shoot at with shot gun or black powder I just started bow hunting and have only shot at one deer Isaw the arrow go under and I still followed the tracks to make sure I a equal amount is wounded of course if you put a gun or bow I an a untrained persons hand you are going to get wounded deer I practice and practice with gun and bow so I can make sure I don't wound deer yea I have lost deer every one has lost a deer it's part of hunting

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:37 am

I believe that of ALL bowhunters, in a season close to 50% put an arrow thru a deer and do not find it.

How many of those die?

That would be hard to say.
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby JV NC » Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:58 am

How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?


Sooner or later.....EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I believe about 10% of the "he'll live"....or, "I saw the deer I injured a month later...and he's just fine" I see touted on the internet.

I believe the percentage that end up perishing from hunting wounds is much higher than people want to admit to.

Call me a skeptic......
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Dewey » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:08 am

Zap wrote:I believe that of ALL bowhunters, in a season close to 50% put an arrow thru a deer and do not find it.

How many of those die?

That would be hard to say.

That seems awfully high!

I know quite a few years back there was a study done on this with bowhunters at Camp Ripley in Minnesota. I don't have time to dig it up but I'm sure if you Google it you will find it right away. An article was written for Deer & Deer Hunting Magazine I believe.

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:12 am

I believe that with the amount of new bowhunters, light poundage bows being popular along with mechanicals....there are alot shot and not found.

If you are talking hard core bowhunters I would think the #'s would be alot lower.
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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Dewey » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:15 am

Zap wrote:I believe that with the amount of new bowhunters, light poundage bows being popular along with mechanicals....there are alot shot and not found.

If you are talking hard core bowhunters I would think the #'s would be alot lower.

I agree with that.

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Dewey » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:22 am

I found info on the Camp Ripley study. It's kinda old but should give some idea...... http://www.fredbear-online.com/POD/RipleyStudy.doc

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Re: How many bow hunters kill a deer and never find it?

Unread postby Zap » Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:25 am

8-)
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