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moon phase questoin?

Unread postby BigHunt » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:21 am

ive been studing the moon giued the past week or so.......... corect me if im wrong please! if im reading this right from the scoutlook weather.com sight, the moon will be under foot on friday mouring right around 530ishAM. if it were season, would this be the day to hunt in the mouring because the deer come back late?, also saturday, sunday, and monday night the moon will be overhead at or right around dark, for these days this weekend will it be a good afternoon drive time,
one differance is the moon is just past newmoon last month when movment was good the moon was almost full, dose the newmoon affect deer like full moons?


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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby GRUD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:45 pm

I have found new moons and full moons to have a similar effect since they are both overhead or underfoot at noon and midnight. As for hunting Friday if it were season, I would hold off until Saturday. Friday may work but feeding until 6:30am Saturday would give you a better chance of seeing the deer after daylight.

If you drive around this weekend you will see deer in the evenings and mornings.

Here is how I approach it. August 13th is the full moon, the new moon is 14 days earlier. So, the new moon is always underfoot at midnight and overhead at noon, each day it is about an hour later. So, July 31st was the new moon, Friday will be the 5th day after so the feeding times will be approximately 5am and 5pm, for Saturday 6am and 6pm, Sunday 7am and 7pm. The 7th day after a full moon or new moon has always been the highest rated days on the commercially produced moon charts I have seen. Same pattern goes for a full moon. The whole season can be broken down into 14 day cycles starting with each new or full moon. I pick my days to hunt accordingly.
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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby GRUD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:51 pm

Here is a link to a good free chart

http://www.flwoutdoors.com/solunarTables/

You can see it changes a little based on where you live but my rule of thumb is what I posted above and have always had good success. I don't purchase a moon chart I just go by the new moon or full moon.
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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby BigHunt » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:09 pm

so how do i read this? cool link, the mounth then the day when i put the mouse on what day i want it gives me a reading like this AM 1:29-2:28
Pm 9:55-10:50 what does this mean im alittle confused :?




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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby GRUD » Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:48 pm

Those are the times that the moon will be overhead or underfoot, when deer will be on their feet feeding.

To answer one of your ealier questions about morning hunts, I like to hunt a morning when the feeding time is between 7 and 9:30am.
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Unread postby headgear » Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:40 am

Here is a great site that tells you the moon transit, just select and date and type in your town.

http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomi ... one-day-us

Here is the data I pulled for my area.

SUN
Begin civil twilight 5:28 a.m.
Sunrise 6:03 a.m.
Sun transit 1:23 p.m.
Sunset 8:42 p.m.
End civil twilight 9:16 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 10:50 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 1:35 p.m.
Moon transit 6:33 p.m.
Moonset 11:23 p.m.
Moonrise 2:50 p.m. on following day

The moon will be overhead at 6:33pm but also should underfoot in the morning around that 5:00am-6:00am time range depending on your area. Not 100% sure on that
so anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Unread postby headgear » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:52 am

Ok I did a little more math on this just to see if I had this right, again I am not 100% sure what I am talking about so someone please correct me if I am wrong. These numbers are for my area so you might have to adjust depending on how far east or west you are from central MN.

By my calculations if the moon transit is at 6:33pm on Friday and 7:29pm on Saturday that puts the moon/earth rotation time at 24 hours and 56 minues. So if you cut that time in half 12 hours and 28 minutes you should be able to find the underfoot time by subtracting or adding the 12 hours and 28 minutes to the moon transit times.

So for Friday Aug 5th in Central MN the moon would be overhead at 6:33pm and underfoot at 6:05am.
Aug 6th would be overhead at 7:29 and underfoot at 7:01.

Can anyone with a moon guide confirm this? I could try this for other dates if needed.
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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby headgear » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:56 am

Same numbers for Madison, WI.

Aug 5th
Moon overhead 6:13pm and underfoot at 5:45am

Aug 6th
Moon overhead at 7:09pm and underfoot at 6:41am

I should probably just spend the $10 and get a moon guide and figure this out for sure. :roll:
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Unread postby cornfedkiller » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:01 am

Figure it out for a date in july..then I can tell you if you are on the right track - I found a moon guide for july 2011, so I can check it then..
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Unread postby cornfedkiller » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:04 am

Nevermind..I found an august one, and it looks like you are spot on headgear..

You might wanna try this site - www.usprimetimes.com
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Unread postby headgear » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:17 am

Thanks for the link cornfed, looks like a great site. Just to be sure it looks like that site shows a range of time? I kind of want to be able to pinponit the peak time in relation ship to first and last shooting light. The deer I see alwasy seem to be moving/feeding at those peak times or close too them.

Just to be sure on this, as hunters we would want the peak feeding time to be within an hour or so of last shooting light in the evening and within an hour or so or maybe just after first shooting light in the morning so the bucks are coming back to bed late?
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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby cornfedkiller » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:24 am

headgear wrote:Thanks for the link cornfed, looks like a great site. Just to be sure it looks like that site shows a range of time? I kind of want to be able to pinponit the peak time in relation ship to first and last shooting light. The deer I see alwasy seem to be moving/feeding at those peak times or close too them.


True..I never thought about that, and you are absolutely right about pinpointing a certain time vs a 2 hour range..

Im not sure how accurate it is (obviously only within a half hour), but if you click on "detailed day graph" it will show you the overhead/underfoot times - although like I mentioned, only broken down by half hours..

I'll continue to see what else I can find...
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Unread postby GFY Camp » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:27 am

So if I am understanding this correct. Using the September 17th season opener for us here in Wisconsin.

These dates should be peak days for both morning and afternoon hunts.

September 20th and 21st.


Tuesday
20 September 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:09 a.m.
Sunrise 6:38 a.m.
Sun transit 12:47 p.m.
Sunset 6:55 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:23 p.m.

MOON
Moonrise 10:50 p.m. on preceding day
Moon transit 6:41 a.m.
Moonset 2:29 p.m.
Moonrise 11:48 p.m.
Moonset 3:12 p.m. on following day



Wednesday
21 September 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:10 a.m.
Sunrise 6:39 a.m.
Sun transit 12:46 p.m.
Sunset 6:53 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:21 p.m.

MOON
Moonrise 11:48 p.m. on preceding day
Moon transit 7:33 a.m.
Moonset 3:12 p.m.
Moonrise 12:52 a.m. on following day



The next peak days I see are Oct. 3 and 4th.

Monday
3 October 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:24 a.m.
Sunrise 6:53 a.m.
Sun transit 12:42 p.m.
Sunset 6:31 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:00 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 10:21 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 2:00 p.m.
Moon transit 6:41 p.m.
Moonset 11:25 p.m.
Moonrise 2:42 p.m. on following day



Tuesday
4 October 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:25 a.m.
Sunrise 6:54 a.m.
Sun transit 12:42 p.m.
Sunset 6:29 p.m.
End civil twilight 6:58 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 11:25 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 2:42 p.m.
Moon transit 7:33 p.m.
Moonset 12:30 a.m. on following day




Is this correct? It pretty much means every 12-14 days there are going to be peak days.
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Re: moon phase questoin?

Unread postby Zap » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:38 am

I have seen good buck movement when the moon peaked about two hrs after sunrise.
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Unread postby Black Squirrel » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:42 am

GFY Camp wrote:So if I am understanding this correct. Using the September 17th season opener for us here in Wisconsin.

These dates should be peak days for both morning and afternoon hunts.

September 20th and 21st.


Tuesday
20 September 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:09 a.m.
Sunrise 6:38 a.m.
Sun transit 12:47 p.m.
Sunset 6:55 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:23 p.m.

MOON
Moonrise 10:50 p.m. on preceding day
Moon transit 6:41 a.m.
Moonset 2:29 p.m.
Moonrise 11:48 p.m.
Moonset 3:12 p.m. on following day



Wednesday
21 September 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:10 a.m.
Sunrise 6:39 a.m.
Sun transit 12:46 p.m.
Sunset 6:53 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:21 p.m.

MOON
Moonrise 11:48 p.m. on preceding day
Moon transit 7:33 a.m.
Moonset 3:12 p.m.
Moonrise 12:52 a.m. on following day



The next peak days I see are Oct. 3 and 4th.

Monday
3 October 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:24 a.m.
Sunrise 6:53 a.m.
Sun transit 12:42 p.m.
Sunset 6:31 p.m.
End civil twilight 7:00 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 10:21 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 2:00 p.m.
Moon transit 6:41 p.m.
Moonset 11:25 p.m.
Moonrise 2:42 p.m. on following day



Tuesday
4 October 2011 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:25 a.m.
Sunrise 6:54 a.m.
Sun transit 12:42 p.m.
Sunset 6:29 p.m.
End civil twilight 6:58 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 11:25 p.m. on preceding day
Moonrise 2:42 p.m.
Moon transit 7:33 p.m.
Moonset 12:30 a.m. on following day




Is this correct? It pretty much means every 12-14 days there are going to be peak days.

I believe your Sept. dates are going to favor morning hunts because the moon transit (overhead) is near morning twlight. But I believe your October dates will favor evening hunting, again because moon transit is at evening twlight. Moon transit (overhead) along with underfoot are the Major times, in most of these moon charts.


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