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Winter Scouting - Public Land - NOW

Unread postby Singing Bridge » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:11 am

Not seeing much from Beasts doing their winter scouting chores ! lol

If you are scouting, how's it going and what are you finding? There's a lot more to this time of year than workshops with previously located sign.

I see more excuses to not scout at this time of the year than any other... too bad because it is critical to me and many serious public land hunters. It's one thing if you are in the Lake Superior snowbelt and have 6-20 feet of snow on the ground, but other than that...

Let's look at Michigan, which because of its 2 peninsulas has tremendous length and variety of conditions on public land for winter scouting. Think tracking mature bucks in the snow has no relevance to the previous hunting season? That is a very large mistake. Even if the deer are yarded up, that shouldn't slow you down from getting out there and scouting. No need to harass the yarded deer, but there are many other public land habitats with fall buck sign that need you to take a look at and find bedding. If there's a couple of feet of snow or less you need to get out there. A little more snow? Get the snowshoes out and roll.

All the deer yarded up in cedar swamps in your area so you think there is nothing to scout? Think again. Some of the oldest, largest and mature bucks on public lands spend the majority of their lives in the big swamps... not just winter. Local bucks, as opposed to transient bucks, have preferred bedding areas within related to security, water, food and other deer. These big buck beds aren't in the middle of the yarded deer frenzy either. Never say never when it comes to scouting mature bucks.

And finally, I'll borrow another of my recent posts to show the variety in winter severity in a single state... Michigan. I think some of you will like what I mention about clearcuts and scouting RIGHT NOW.

Michigan is so long with the 2 peninsulas that it really depends on where you hunt. Southern Michigan to Copper Harbor in the U.P is about 620 miles... If you went South instead you would be in Georgia and 300 out of Florida...

The snowbelt areas, especially the Lake Superior snowbelt, can have off the chart deep snow and heavily yarded deer in protective cedar swamps, primarily. On a winter with no snow at my home in the lower peninsula I would have 4 feet of hard packed snow at my cabin in the U.P... winters with a lot of snow I could step off my roof on the hard pack... and there are Superior snowbelt areas that are much worse than that. Pretty tough to tie midwinter bedding to other seasons. The Grand Marais deer yard has deer migrating north, which shows nothing is ever guaranteed in deer hunting (it is on the shoreline of Lake Superior). As you drive into town in February, I've had several herds of whitetails travelling in different directions cross in front of me. While eating pizza in town I've had February whitetails walk up to the window and peer in at me. The locals, even though they are not supposed to, put food for the deer on Lake Superior and watch them walk out onto the ice to feed.

Outside of that I don't let winter slow me down, even if the deer are somewhere else for the winter period. When you become highly experienced at finding buck beds you can recognize bedding areas and individual buck beds on sight even with a couple of feet of snow. When I recognize a buck bed with a couple of feet of snow on the ground I look for verification... I kick off the snow with my boot, kneel down and scratch the ground with a gloved hand... when I find deer hair and I usually do... SHAZAM !!

Right now in some nearby big woods areas where winters are less severe, the clearcuts are absolutely loaded with deer that are feeding. You can find a big buck track and back track it to its bed... it may or may not be used in the fall, figuring that out is up to you. These buck beds are pretty secure so you have a decent chance.

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Re: Winter Scouting - Public Land - NOW

Unread postby Edcyclopedia » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:47 am

If you're posting - you're not scoutin'
Guess we are both guilty :mrgreen:
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Unread postby travisj56 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:32 am

I’m glad you posted this. I was kinda at a loss with the snow but now I have a new idea to go look for. I was thinking of waiting for no snow so I could see the trails and scrapes and beds. I guess I was thinking it was all covered up but I will get back out there and start running them down. Thanks so much for the info.
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Unread postby Hawthorne » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:45 am

I’ve been out a few times since January 1. Gonna start picking it up here soon. I’ll scout into early may before it gets fully green
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Unread postby Autiger » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:52 am

Went out Friday and plan to get out next weekend while the wife is in Florida. We are in the middle of getting a fresh 3-7in of snow right now that is going to put a dampening on my ability to find sheds. But after striking out the last 2 years, I am determined to put a good one down this year and will be putting more time in.
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Unread postby Ack » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:14 am

Scouting is miserable around here right now. Ice is barely thick enough to walk on, and with all the water from fall you can’t go any areas that are worthwhile without busting through. Personally I’d rather wait until it melts and walk through water. I broke through and went up to my pockets today, and my shin is black and blue from raking it on the ice when I went in. I’m done til the ice melts or freezes solid.
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Unread postby Dewey » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:22 am

I have a lot of miles of scouting in already but not posting anything. Just don't have the time or desire to do that anymore. Heavy snow today will really slow things up for a bit. Been cyber scouting all day while watching heavy snow from the comfort of my couch. :lol:
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Unread postby Derbooze » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:32 am

I've been out scouring every weekend since bow season closed. Swamps have gone from frozen to mostly frozen and back again (south central WI). I have my eye on a nice 12 pointer and this has been a great time of the year for me to confirm where I believe he is bedded. I found more rubs that I hadn't seen this fall now that the leaves are gone too.

And one spot I hunt has had a lot of invasive buckthorn cleared out. I suspect that will change some patterns quite a bit. From what I can tell, it looks like the deer trails are hugging the wetlands leading to the lake so I popped a camera up at a trail junction.

I'm hoping to head up north to my bear hunting public land for a full day of scouting too. I need to get back where it was just too thick and nasty to see what is back there! I'm sure my dog and I will have a heck of a workout. Now if he could just sniff out those sheds...
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Re: Winter Scouting - Public Land - NOW

Unread postby Singing Bridge » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:38 am

Edcyclopedia wrote:If you're posting - you're not scoutin'
Guess we are both guilty :mrgreen:


I know, I know... quit posting and get to work !
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Unread postby Singing Bridge » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:44 am

travisj56 wrote:I’m glad you posted this. I was kinda at a loss with the snow but now I have a new idea to go look for. I was thinking of waiting for no snow so I could see the trails and scrapes and beds. I guess I was thinking it was all covered up but I will get back out there and start running them down. Thanks so much for the info.


A lot of it is covered up and its a lot easier when the snow comes off... that being said, it depends on how bad you want it. A lot of potential bedding areas will have some rubs you can find unless the snow is crazy deep, you can familiarize yourself more with the hunting area, etc. Big buck tracks in the snow in areas without heavy accumulation are out there for the finding and backtracking to bedding may well pay off. Not all the big bucks are yarded up in remote cedar swamps. Some of the beds are used most of the year.
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Unread postby Singing Bridge » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Ack wrote:Scouting is miserable around here right now. Ice is barely thick enough to walk on, and with all the water from fall you can’t go any areas that are worthwhile without busting through. Personally I’d rather wait until it melts and walk through water. I broke through and went up to my pockets today, and my shin is black and blue from raking it on the ice when I went in. I’m done til the ice melts or freezes solid.


Ouch, glad you didn't break anything Brian. I don't blame you.
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Re: Winter Scouting - Public Land - NOW

Unread postby Dewey » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:47 am

Absolute best time of the year to find primary beds. It never gets any easier than now with snow on the ground. My best beds were found while winter scouting in snow.
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Unread postby Singing Bridge » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:04 am

Dewey wrote:Absolute best time of the year to find primary beds. It never gets any easier than now with snow on the ground. My best beds were found while winter scouting in snow.


Without a doubt, right on the money. Reading big buck tracks, backtracking and finding primary beds, confirming big buck bedding from hunting season... are all possible right now.

Even in the bigwoods it is a prime time to scout. Those clearcut bucks I mentioned aren’t even bedding on the ice / water many times... finding those sheltered beds with quick access to food is a key consideration.
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Unread postby justdirtyfun » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:09 am

Hey, I set my phone down and went scouting.

Behind the house is a cedar that was ALMOST a good bed last year. I trimmed and cleared it at that time but haven't been back.
Sure enough, matted down leaves in a circular shape.

Found a 4 inch hair in another random bed walking back home.
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Re: Winter Scouting - Public Land - NOW

Unread postby Grizzlyadam » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:18 am

It's been a weird winter for me, no snow on the ground. We get some snow, then it melts a few days later. It's been helpful for finding that sign from the fall and the rut. I haven't been hitting it really hard yet, I'm only getting out one day a weekend and a few quick trips during the week. I'll probably hit it a bit harder next month hopefully find some sheds. Seems like lots of bucks are still holding. I also want to get out and knock on some doors this spring and see if I can get in on some new private pieces.


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