Must see: Jeff Sturgis vid. His thoughts on the Proposed WI regs, crossbows and CWD

[Swedishbowhunter]

There are 2 sides to the cwd issue, the one these wildlife biologist are talking about is the cwd effects on the deer herd. The other side that they dont know or talk about is cwd and its possible effects on humans once they consume cwd infected meat. Yes I know there has not been a case of transmission to a human, I am saying that it is something to think about and not disregard it as a non issue.

[whi52873]

I'm far from a fan myself and rarely watch his vids. What interested me the most was what he said about John Ozooga. Ozooga was "the doctor deer" long before James Kroll. He has been part of more deer studies than anyone. If he says we don't have to worry too much about CWD. Then I would tend to listen. Funny thing is Dr. Deer, James Kroll pretty much said the same thing. 2 of the countries most respected and experienced deer researchers. And yet everyone else knows way better!!!

Lots of research needs to be done on CWD. But why kill off the herd, before we have all, or at least a few more answers. What their doing now is just based on a guess. Because no one truly knows how long CWD has existed.

The USDA spent $18.6 million into monitoring and researching CWD in 2006 alone.

A spending bill was approved in June 2019 for $15 million to combat the spread of CWD in various states.

Who knows how many millions of dollars was spent from 2006 - 2019 on CWD related issues.

I'm not saying this is true but maybe the states are pumping out this propaganda to gain access to millions of dollars from the US Gov't?

There has been tons of research done and millions of dollars spent on this disease....and what has all that research proved? Not much.

CWD has been found in South Korea, Norway, Finland, Canada, and obviously North America. When all the histeria started, agencies started testing for it and it's now being found essentially everywhere in small numbers.....CWD has been around a very long time and will always be around. No way of stopping it.

Like Jeff and many others have said, the disease is serious but not even close to a crisis.

[trapper57]

Has anybody ever thought that the CWD scare could all be put on by anti hunters ?
Just my conspiracy theory

[greenhorndave]

https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2020/01 ... r-samples/

[Swedishbowhunter]

Has anybody ever thought that the CWD scare could all be put on by anti hunters ?
Just my conspiracy theory

I have spent countless hours, walking 100's of miles and miles thru CWD areas and cant say I have ever seen a dead deer that appeared to have died from CWD. I am just saying

[trapper57]

Has anybody ever thought that the CWD scare could all be put on by anti hunters ?
Just my conspiracy theory

I have spent countless hours, walking 100's of miles and miles thru CWD areas and cant say I have ever seen a dead deer that appeared to have died from CWD. I am just saying

I live and hunt in many different areas of the Wisconsin CWD hot zones
Between me and all the other people that hunt here, we’ve never encountered a sick deer
How many people on the beast site have ever seen one ?

[Dewey]

Has anybody ever thought that the CWD scare could all be put on by anti hunters ?
Just my conspiracy theory

I have spent countless hours, walking 100's of miles and miles thru CWD areas and cant say I have ever seen a dead deer that appeared to have died from CWD. I am just saying

I live and hunt in many different areas of the Wisconsin CWD hot zones
Between me and all the other people that hunt here, we’ve never encountered a sick deer
How many people on the beast site have ever seen one ?

I have asked this question before and usually get only a few replies where someone noticed sickly looking deer and later it was tested positive for CWD. My question is sure it was tested positive for CWD but is THAT what actually killed it or did it have some other untested disease that really caused it to be sick? I find it hard to believe that the infection rate is so high yet nobody is finding a bunch of dead or even very sick looking deer. My guess is it’s not nearly the death sentence like they claim it is.

[trapper57]

Has anybody ever thought that the CWD scare could all be put on by anti hunters ?
Just my conspiracy theory

I have spent countless hours, walking 100's of miles and miles thru CWD areas and cant say I have ever seen a dead deer that appeared to have died from CWD. I am just saying

I live and hunt in many different areas of the Wisconsin CWD hot zones
Between me and all the other people that hunt here, we’ve never encountered a sick deer
How many people on the beast site have ever seen one ?

I have asked this question before and usually get only a few replies where someone noticed sickly looking deer and later it was tested positive for CWD. My question is sure it was tested positive for CWD but is THAT what actually killed it or did it have some other untested disease that really caused it to be sick? I find it hard to believe that the infection rate is so high yet nobody is finding a bunch of dead or even very sick looking deer. My guess is it’s not nearly the death sentence like they claim it is.

That’s exactly how I feel
We need to quit spending money on it
Let nature take its course !

[sureshotscott]

We're obviously doing this all wrong...

I'm going to start a 501c3 non-profit Hunters Against Squirrel Wasting Disease.

Please donate to HASWD to save the squirrels.

First thing we're going to do is wipe squirrels off the face of the planet. To save the squirrels.

Your donations are greatly appreciated!!!

[stash59]

https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2020/01/27/cwd-pros-collect-analyze-deer-samples/

The numbers they present here are way higher than what I've been seeing. With a big jump in the percentage of positive cases, the last few years. Which, is, concerning. What's frustrating is. I've searched the WI DNR website and couldn't find any actual numbers anywhere. Just maps with dots. What makes me wonder is. If about 15-20% of the deer now sampled, in or near the hot zone, are positive for CWD. Wouldn't that translate to about 15-20% of the total herd, in that area?

And as stated at the very beginning of the article. CWD is "always" fatal. So, why aren't more people seeing sick deer walking around in bad condition. Or finding more dead deer carcasses. Sure not every deer hunter is hard core enough to pay attention all year long. But plenty of hunters are, here in Wisconsin. Many get out and about, or have trail cams set up, all year. And believe me if I lived in the hot zone I'd be paying extra attention for sick deer. But we see few reports from the general public. Even in the hot zone.

So is CWD, "always" fatal. And if it is, but takes 4-5 years for alot of deer to succumb. Is that all that far off from "normal" life expectancy?

In the end what's the deference. CWD kills off most of the herd! Or the DNR eradicates most of the herd in hopes of eliminating CWD. They both mean less deer to hunt. And probably fewer and fewer people wanting to hunt anymore!!! Which will lead to less pull politically.

[kripp53]

https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2020/01/27/cwd-pros-collect-analyze-deer-samples/

The numbers they present here are way higher than what I've been seeing. With a big jump in the percentage of positive cases, the last few years. Which, is, concerning. What's frustrating is. I've searched the WI DNR website and couldn't find any actual numbers anywhere. Just maps with dots. What makes me wonder is. If about 15-20% of the deer now sampled, in or near the hot zone, are positive for CWD. Wouldn't that translate to about 15-20% of the total herd, in that area?

And as stated at the very beginning of the article. CWD is "always" fatal. So, why aren't more people seeing sick deer walking around in bad condition. Or finding more dead deer carcasses. Sure not every deer hunter is hard core enough to pay attention all year long. But plenty of hunters are, here in Wisconsin. Many get out and about, or have trail cams set up, all year. And believe me if I lived in the hot zone I'd be paying extra attention for sick deer. But we see few reports from the general public. Even in the hot zone.

So is CWD, "always" fatal. And if it is, but takes 4-5 years for alot of deer to succumb. Is that all that far off from "normal" life expectancy?

In the end what's the deference. CWD kills off most of the herd! Or the DNR eradicates most of the herd in hopes of eliminating CWD. They both mean less deer to hunt. And probably fewer and fewer people wanting to hunt anymore!!! Which will lead to less pull politically.

Wisconsin DNR CDW site
https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/wildlifehabitat/cwd.html

State Numbers
https://dnr.wi.gov/wmcwd/Summary/Zone
County Numbers
https://dnr.wi.gov/wmcwd/Summary/County

I couldn't find a chart or graph compiling all of the data. But looking at the test results more deer are testing positive for CDW.

[Swedishbowhunter]

https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2020/01/27/cwd-pros-collect-analyze-deer-samples/

The numbers they present here are way higher than what I've been seeing. With a big jump in the percentage of positive cases, the last few years. Which, is, concerning. What's frustrating is. I've searched the WI DNR website and couldn't find any actual numbers anywhere. Just maps with dots. What makes me wonder is. If about 15-20% of the deer now sampled, in or near the hot zone, are positive for CWD. Wouldn't that translate to about 15-20% of the total herd, in that area?

And as stated at the very beginning of the article. CWD is "always" fatal. So, why aren't more people seeing sick deer walking around in bad condition. Or finding more dead deer carcasses. Sure not every deer hunter is hard core enough to pay attention all year long. But plenty of hunters are, here in Wisconsin. Many get out and about, or have trail cams set up, all year. And believe me if I lived in the hot zone I'd be paying extra attention for sick deer. But we see few reports from the general public. Even in the hot zone.

So is CWD, "always" fatal. And if it is, but takes 4-5 years for alot of deer to succumb. Is that all that far off from "normal" life expectancy?

In the end what's the deference. CWD kills off most of the herd! Or the DNR eradicates most of the herd in hopes of eliminating CWD. They both mean less deer to hunt. And probably fewer and fewer people wanting to hunt anymore!!! Which will lead to less pull politically.

Not only is CWD fatal...... Life as we know it is fatal.......MInd blown!!! lol

[JShea]

https://www.bowhunting.com/blog/2020/01/27/cwd-pros-collect-analyze-deer-samples/

The numbers they present here are way higher than what I've been seeing. With a big jump in the percentage of positive cases, the last few years. Which, is, concerning. What's frustrating is. I've searched the WI DNR website and couldn't find any actual numbers anywhere. Just maps with dots. What makes me wonder is. If about 15-20% of the deer now sampled, in or near the hot zone, are positive for CWD. Wouldn't that translate to about 15-20% of the total herd, in that area?

And as stated at the very beginning of the article. CWD is "always" fatal. So, why aren't more people seeing sick deer walking around in bad condition. Or finding more dead deer carcasses. Sure not every deer hunter is hard core enough to pay attention all year long. But plenty of hunters are, here in Wisconsin. Many get out and about, or have trail cams set up, all year. And believe me if I lived in the hot zone I'd be paying extra attention for sick deer. But we see few reports from the general public. Even in the hot zone.

So is CWD, "always" fatal. And if it is, but takes 4-5 years for alot of deer to succumb. Is that all that far off from "normal" life expectancy?

In the end what's the deference. CWD kills off most of the herd! Or the DNR eradicates most of the herd in hopes of eliminating CWD. They both mean less deer to hunt. And probably fewer and fewer people wanting to hunt anymore!!! Which will lead to less pull politically.

Not only is CWD fatal...... Life as we know it is fatal.......MInd blown!!! lol

Great one, and very correct