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Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:05 pm

My brother killed a really great buck this year with his bow and drying isn’t quite done yet but we’re putting the tape to him just out of curiosity. I always thought the minimum for Boone was 170 but we’re seeing some stuff about 160. Anybody know what the actual book requires?


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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby seazofcheeze » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:55 pm

160 net makes book for that year I think and 170+ net makes it forever (this is for typical. NTs have higher minimums).
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:58 pm

Ok that sounds right. We have been confused about it but he’s taking him to be scored this week so we’ll see what happens
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:52 pm

Dewey wrote:https://www.boone-crockett.org/bgRecords/records_minimums.asp?area=bgRecords&ID=416327E9&se=1&te=1

Very helpful thanks Dewey
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:13 pm

His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.
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Unread postby iowa whitetail » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:35 pm

VaBowKill5 wrote:His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.
non typical is scored just like a typical. 10 pointer with two drop tines let's say. So they score the typical side and get a gross. Then do the deductions. After that they add non typical points. 10 point grosses 170 with deductions it is153 then just add the two drop tines to the net. It takes a giant to make Boone&Crockett.
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:45 pm

That’s what I thought. This guy deducted the extra point and then added it back which isn’t right. The deer actually scored 9” more than what he said from the start.
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby Tennhunter3 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:45 pm

VaBowKill5 wrote:His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.



Bc scoring system has always been odd.
I never killed one that large but I did do a buckmasters score and bc score on my first large buck out of curiosity.

Buck masters came out 147 and 3.8ths
Bc after deductions was 138.

Py score system wont even count if you shoot a buck with a lighted nock which pretty much everyone uses nowadays.

Theres alot of booners shot that after non typical deductions don't meet the minimum.Theirs hundreds every year with a bow over 140 that never make the books.

I believe in fairness every inch should be counted. The entire record book system is a joke best not to care.

I used to have a neighbor that oneday invited me in I was in my early teens and on his wall was a giant 26 point that was every bit of booner. He never scored it or bragged he even had it. I just stared at it for about 20 minutes. His reply yeah i got him out back lol. It was probably the first booner ever killed in Benton county and most of the locals never knew. Theres probably hundreds just like this just a giant on a old mans wall.
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby SamPotter » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:01 am

VaBowKill5 wrote:His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.



Your math is correct, the scorer’s wrong.
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Unread postby Bowhunting Brian » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:44 am

Tennhunter3 wrote:
VaBowKill5 wrote:His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.



Bc scoring system has always been odd.
I never killed one that large but I did do a buckmasters score and bc score on my first large buck out of curiosity.

Buck masters came out 147 and 3.8ths
Bc after deductions was 138.

Py score system wont even count if you shoot a buck with a lighted nock which pretty much everyone uses nowadays.

Theres alot of booners shot that after non typical deductions don't meet the minimum.Theirs hundreds every year with a bow over 140 that never make the books.

I believe in fairness every inch should be counted. The entire record book system is a joke best not to care.

I used to have a neighbor that oneday invited me in I was in my early teens and on his wall was a giant 26 point that was every bit of booner. He never scored it or bragged he even had it. I just stared at it for about 20 minutes. His reply yeah i got him out back lol. It was probably the first booner ever killed in Benton county and most of the locals never knew. Theres probably hundreds just like this just a giant on a old mans wall.


Fairness for every inch doesn't matter. These are clubs and clubs have rules. If people dont like the rules, they don't have to join the club. I thought the buckmasters system gives credit for everything grown? Why not enter it in their club?
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby Tennhunter3 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:52 am

Bowhunting Brian wrote:
Tennhunter3 wrote:
VaBowKill5 wrote:His buck got scored today by a pope and young official scorer and after we left we’re not sure about the math I wanted to check with you guys. The deer is a main frame 10 with a 9 inch extra browtine making him an 11. The deers typical frame not including the extra browtine was 170” even. After deductions the typical net score was 153 2/8 (this deducts the extra brow). My brother then told him that he would want to enter him non typical rather than typical so the scorer said well then just add the 9” back which makes him 162 2/8. My thoughts are that’s just pretending that extra tine isn’t there. Is a non typical score not the net typical score excluding all abnormal points, Then you add the abnormal ones to it? In this case the deer would only have 7 6/8” of deductions then you would add 9” for the extra brow which would make him 171 2/8”. I know this is kind of confusing but I just want some insight if anybody knows how to properly score a non typical on the pope and young system.



Bc scoring system has always been odd.
I never killed one that large but I did do a buckmasters score and bc score on my first large buck out of curiosity.

Buck masters came out 147 and 3.8ths
Bc after deductions was 138.

Py score system wont even count if you shoot a buck with a lighted nock which pretty much everyone uses nowadays.

Theres alot of booners shot that after non typical deductions don't meet the minimum.Theirs hundreds every year with a bow over 140 that never make the books.

I believe in fairness every inch should be counted. The entire record book system is a joke best not to care.

I used to have a neighbor that oneday invited me in I was in my early teens and on his wall was a giant 26 point that was every bit of booner. He never scored it or bragged he even had it. I just stared at it for about 20 minutes. His reply yeah i got him out back lol. It was probably the first booner ever killed in Benton county and most of the locals never knew. Theres probably hundreds just like this just a giant on a old mans wall.


Fairness for every inch doesn't matter. These are clubs and clubs have rules. If people dont like the rules, they don't have to join the club. I thought the buckmasters system gives credit for everything grown? Why not enter it in their club?



Buckmasters does which is why I was curious to know the true score of the animal.

These clubs are good ole boys clubs that invented a way to brag. I have no desire to be in any record book. I was trying to make him feel better in that those numbers bc scores aren't the real score of his buck or any buck on that record book that is a non typical.
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby Bio1 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:25 am

If my memory serves me correctly a deer has to have a minimum of 15” of abnormal growth to be considered a non-typical. With only 9” he would go in the books as a typical.

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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby Ishi Spirit » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:36 am

Bio1 wrote:If my memory serves me correctly a deer has to have a minimum of 15” of abnormal growth to be considered a non-typical. With only 9” he would go in the books as a typical.

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You are correct on that if scored for P&Y.
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Re: Boone and Crockett minimum?

Unread postby VaBowKill5 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:08 am

Ishi Spirit wrote:
Bio1 wrote:If my memory serves me correctly a deer has to have a minimum of 15” of abnormal growth to be considered a non-typical. With only 9” he would go in the books as a typical.

Lee


You are correct on that if scored for P&Y.

Wow I didn’t know that was the case. This is all new to us we’ve never killed one worth considering for non typical


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