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Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Archery

Unread postby spiker2930 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:29 pm

Dan you have to have the real truth on the Illinois and Wis game accusations from the DNR? Is he getting thye railroad?


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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby Zap » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:35 pm

Lotsa hater's on AT.........

Thing's are what they are, no more no less.
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby spiker2930 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Zap wrote:Lotsa hater's on AT.........

Thing's are what they are, no more no less.
No one look's good under a magnafing glass....

So True! Looks like your having a blast on your Trip
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby Zap » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:41 pm

spiker2930 wrote:
Zap wrote:Lotsa hater's on AT.........

Thing's are what they are, no more no less.
No one look's good under a magnafing glass....

So True! Looks like your having a blast on your Trip



Yes I am, only wish I had it in me to do more one day set's...heat stroke this past summer took alot outa me, plus I am old as dirt.... :lol:
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby PASwamper » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:43 pm

Wish I knew more about this before passing any judgement ya know.
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby muddy » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:50 pm

I read an online newspaper article on how he an his son got busted for "baiting" in Illinois along with two guys from tennessee. Something else along the lines of improper licenses as well.
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Unread postby muddy » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:56 pm

Ok, not a regular news site I guess, thought it was. Here's the link.

http://outdoornews.com/illinois/news/article_0d4c6af2-1773-11e0-b1dc-001cc4c03286.html
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby BackWoodsHunter » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:00 pm

He's still one of the best out there. You don't kill that many big deer hunting over bait piles. He got caught without a license that is punishable but it doesn't take away from his success.
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Unread postby cornfedkiller » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:02 pm

Field and Stream had the story as well..Id like to know the full story, and until then, thats all Im saying..
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby muddy » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:06 pm

The story said something about mineral/salt being made available to the deer? I have no idea if it's legal to use mineral licks in Illinois even for a trail camera summer attractant so maybe there's some technicality with that?
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby Hodag Hunter » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:15 pm

Just for grins....it's illegal to place mineral licks anywhere in WI before archery season starts. I think there may be more than a few people who do start licks in spring and place cameras. Not throwin stones because I'm sure not "lily white", just for others to think about before commenting.

To me I could care less, he did no wrong in my eyes.
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby BackWoodsHunter » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:20 pm

Not buying a license is kind of a bone-head move :roll: but I agree big whoop on the mineral licks.
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Unread postby wappkid » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:41 pm

There are a lot of people out there who are quick to pass judgement.There is only one judgement you have to worry about."The man upstairs"I don't know all the details to the story.There are more details that just what they are reporting.You know how the news media can twist and manipulate a story"Look at who we have for president". But there are different definitions of baiting from state to state.In Ill its legal to hunt deer feeding on corn.In Mo its illegal to hunt deer feeding on corn.In Ill its illegal to provide deer minerals. In Mo its legal to provide deer salt and mineral licks.And a salt or mineral lick wont draw in a 200" deer. If that was the case I would have them lined up on the walls.
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Re: Whats up with the 8 pages of Andrae bashing today on Arc

Unread postby dan » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:43 pm

Yesterday I was at work and got an email from a well known outdoor writer who got the posted article as a news release from the DNR... I was shocked cause I do know the whole story behind the scenes. I called Andrae and told him and then forworded him the article. He is writing up a press release for us to put on this and all other sites. He was going to send it to me earlier today but I urged him to have either a lawyer or at least or friend the outdoor writer look at it 1st...
Here is what I know about this... 1st off, you don't believe every thing you hear in the liberal media, do you? You gotta kind of read between the lines.
Last year when Andrae bought his Illinois license for him, his son Cody, and his daughter Ashley, he bought them over the phone. He forgot to purchase the habitat stamp.
The article makes it look like he was hunting without a license, but really an illinois license is about $600 if the fine was $200 who would buy one? Read it again, its worded to look like he had no license.
Second, the wardens found a mineral lick on the lease farm Andrae shares with several other people from Tennesee. No one was caught hunting over the minerals. They wrote a citation anyway and when it went to the DA's office it was thrown out.
Hunting on a leased farm that has minerals somewhere on it is not illeagle. Was it Andraes minerals? I don't know. Maybe.
I know one thing, he don't hunt over bait, but he has used minerals to grow racks in the spring and summer.
The DA threw that out immediatly. So, all there is to the baiting is an accusation. If you read the news release you will see the small print where it says at the bottom the baiting charges were dropped. Believe me, if they could of, they would of.
Further more, I have personally hunted with Andrae in 3 different states, and have been good friends of his and his family for over 20 years ( before anybody new who Andrae was )
His ethics are in my opinion the best I have ever seen in any hunter. He has passed B&C class deer because of the amount of camera light, or because he felt 22 yards is to far of a shot.
I don't hold a candle to him ethically. As a matter of fact, I think I would not be as ethically sound as I am now, if it were not for having him as a mentor and friend.


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