A Shame - Poachers...

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A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby Sam Ubl » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:03 am

The harsh reality is, POACHERS exist :? While watching a DVR'ed show called Driven with Pat and Nicole, they were filming a season progression of hunts in Buffalo Co, WI. The Good, the bad and the ugly always have a way of showing up in one form or another in hunting shows; Good sized deer, Bad shots and Ugly fences... What have you. What I like about the Outdoor Channel is you never see fences, instead, the ugly is usually the harsh realities the average Joe hunter may run into.

In this particular episode, the duo hunted a farm from opening day until they sealed the deal with dandy in December. What was the ugly part? The poached deer that the farmer called the duo about when they were in town to film in November. Only blurring the carnage around the neck where the bucks head was sawed off the body, they showed where they parked and the view of the buck laying in the cut field 100 yards off the road. They walked up to it with their lap top and deciphered exactly what deer it was since they had trail cameras set in that exact area where the deer was poached. It was a BIG old 9 pt., a tell-tale body match.

It was evident they shot the deer in the neck and left it there for a while to let the air quiet down after their gun shot as evident by how dug up the dirt was wherethe deer had been kicking his legs as he slowly died.

No deer should die this way, and I hope those poachers get what's coming to them.

Anyone else have any story's? I'll share some in follow up posts.


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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:21 am

While doing ride alongs with MDC conservation agents, we uncovered a ring of "kids" (16-20 yrs old) shooting deer for fun. I came across a momma doe and her two little yearlings all shot dead in the same field. (Mind you this is in late June) When I came up on the deer, they had their tails cut off. These kids were all breaking up into teams and shooting and killing as many deer as they could per night. Whoever collected the most tails won!!! I never knew how many kids were involved in this game, but the number was estimated to be 20-25 kids. It really made me sick....and also made me wonder about todays youth. They received nothing more than a slap on the wrist and that is also just wrong. I hadn't thought about it in awhile, until I read your post.
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby Sam Ubl » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:55 am

Sick. Plain and disgusting...

Thrill killers are a whole 'nother level of poachers.

While floating the little river Dan's friend who's selling his 10 acres on, we came to where a fallen tree blocked passage on the river. We were familiar with this spot and would always have to portage our canoe the 2 feet around it. This one particular time it was August and we were fishing... There at pushed up against the tree by the current was a pair of garbage bags tied tight with air in them. The river is so clean so we did our duty and pulled it out, but not without effort. The bags were heavy and interest arose, especially since the smell of death was looming. There in the bags was a deer hide. Kind of a weird way to get rid of evidence... Why not throw it in the woods off the road or something? It was just down from a bridge where we came across them.

Another time we were ice fishing at a place in Princeton called, "The Bayou", which is just that, a bayou off the Fox River. There was a natural spring with a pump there a ways back in this snow covered prairie and we'd always fill our jugs there because it rarely froze. Walking to it from the direction I came, I found 4 carcasses, all 4 with their heads cut off :( Again, who goes through all that work to dispose of bodies? I have more but I'll wait for a couple more posts.
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby DropTyne » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:18 am

This February I found 3 deer carcasses (mainly bones with a little meat on them) several other critters (coons, beaver, and several squirrels) all thrown in a pile at the end of a dead end road (kind of tucked in the woods) of some property I hunt in Waukesha. The skins were hanging in the trees by strings and the skulls displayed on the ends of sticks jammed in the ground with colorful string and what appeared to be long human hair attached to them. Needless to say I got the out of there. It has been the only case that I discovered and it was a really creepy sight.

I guess the thing that is creepiest is this wasn't a very rural area or anything, there is a very nice subdivision 100 yards away!
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby DropTyne » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:25 am

In response to the other stories I just can never understand how someone could poach an animal under a spotlight or out of season and feel good about doing it. It boggles my mind; I could never display a head or horns from an animal like that in my home.
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby publiclandhunter » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:50 pm

What really ticks me off is when incidents are aired on the news, Animal Planet, Nat Geo, etc, where they bust a poaching ring and then they say "These hunters poached the animals!" , they aren't hunters....call it like it really is...they are poachers - period! The anti-hunting society likes to lump all hunters and poachers together for public portrayal.

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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby virginiashadow » Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:17 pm

I remember going smallmouth fishing with my father when I was a teenager and us running smack dab into a deer poaching camp. We must have found 20-30 dead dear in the middle of the summer.

Also, a good friend of mine owns some beautiful hunting grounds. His family had a poaching camp established on their property in the dead of the hunting season. The GW and local law enforcement had to go up on the side of the mountain and physically remove the camp...they arrested some of the poachers on the spot.
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby dirt nap giver » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:02 am

I do nuiscence and crop damage permits every year, and I won't hunt the birthing or mothering periods. The owners of these properties, used to get upset with me because of this. So I started patrolling the main problem areas to ease the owners. A couple years ago they had someone else come in there, these guys were shooting everything, including fawns and bucks. A friend of mine who is in on this with me is a deputy. We found 3 bucks one day, all decapitated. So we called the DNR and the investigation led to the arrest of the offenders and a fine to the owners. I then had the opportunity to plead my case to the owners and the perspective has been different since then......Thank God for that!
Another incident in an area known as the Todd Farm led to the prosecution of 2 state troopers for poaching and beheading of 6+ slobs. They would drive on the farm early in the morning with their spot lights, shoot, cut and leave. They finally were busted when one of them got stuck and had to call a wrecker, who happened to be friends with the main grounds keeper. Oh yeah! they got a $250 fine. Yeah! They are still finding decapitated deer every year.
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby Sam Ubl » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:23 am

Wow...

Surprised the landowners let you back on to be honest, but glad they did - they must be decent people to understand and respect the law enough to realize you did nothing wrong by turning it the wrong-do'ers.

The $250 fine is a joke! "They", as in the same farmers, are finding decapitated deer still? I wonder why no one is up early enough at that farm to see the shooters, or is it that big of a farm - must be to have that many big bucks roaming.

Serious shame!
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Re: A Shame - Poachers...

Unread postby publiclandhunter » Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:14 am

Dirt Nap,

It is truly a shame that the punishment doesn't fit the crime when this happens. They should be fined as if they went into a high-fence enclosure and paid to shoot the deer. If an enclosure would have charged the person $6,000 to kill a deer of that caliber, then they should pay that amount plus jail time, loss of license across all 50 states, etc. IMO

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Unread postby dirt nap giver » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:25 pm

The tags state on them that it is for antler less deer only. They knew damn well what they did. Not to mention we have to keep record and turn the heads into DNR. As far as them letting me back in, I was never kicked out, they just didn't understand why I wouldn't shoot anything until the fawns were old enough to fend for themselves. It helps that the manager of the property is a retired state trooper.
The punishment should fit the crime, but as long as they are part of the system, I guess that makes them exempt.
The Todd farm is a refuge with zones around it open to hunting as long as you are informed on dates and rules. No one lives on the farm, It is run by the DNR. Thousands of acres. Booners yearly! Serious pressure. I chuckle when some talk about pressure. I wish it were that light here.
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