Boogieman1 wrote:Just saying.....
Don’t believe adds like this show the weapon as archery equipment. Pretty clear what audience they are catering to for sells.
I wonder if you believe and cite all marketing campaigns or just the ones you agree with.
Boogieman1 wrote:Just saying.....
Don’t believe adds like this show the weapon as archery equipment. Pretty clear what audience they are catering to for sells.
Boogieman1 wrote:Just saying.....
Don’t believe adds like this show the weapon as archery equipment. Pretty clear what audience they are catering to for sells.
buttonbuck wrote:Boogieman1 wrote:Just saying.....
Don’t believe adds like this show the weapon as archery equipment. Pretty clear what audience they are catering to for sells.
Perhaps im misunderstanding the intention of your post. If its about “who” the manufacturers are marketing to, I get that.
dan wrote:I really don't understand why any sensible person cares whether someone else uses a crossbow, a stick bow or a gun? Are you worried someone will do better than you? I try to just worry about me.... Take a look at the video I just posted on the beast youtube page about Mario vs the dogs. I was taken back by all the hatefull comments about Mario shooting a crossbow. My common response is that his elbow is permanently locked at 90 degrees and he can't move it, so he cant shoot a regular bow. So why shouldn't he get to enjoy bow season too? Granted, most of the ignorant hate messages are from people assuming he is not disabled. However, what does that matter? You will get guys that say its much easier and more deer will get killed... Well, some of that might be true, it is a little easier, I wouldn't say a lot. You still have to get a deer in bow range. Despite what people say the accurate range of a crossbow is only slightly more that a compound. As far as killing more deer? I think they kill less. Most guys I know that shoot crossbows kill one deer a year... The 1st one they shoot at. I shot 3 deer this year that I did not tag cause they were not recovered. If its a more effective tool at killing, they will wound less, and kill less. Regardless, hunters should not fight among themselves. We have enough enemies. Why are some people so worried someone else might kill a bigger buck, or shoot more? Maybe those people should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they hunt....
Boogieman1 wrote:buttonbuck wrote:Boogieman1 wrote:Just saying.....
Don’t believe adds like this show the weapon as archery equipment. Pretty clear what audience they are catering to for sells.
Perhaps im misunderstanding the intention of your post. If its about “who” the manufacturers are marketing to, I get that.
Ya, I think you took it the wrong way. The add was posted as a answer to the title of this thread. Why Anti Crossbow. Feel these kinda adds and commercials with guys shooting 2” groups at a 100 yards just pour fuel on the fire.
dan wrote:I really don't understand why any sensible person cares whether someone else uses a crossbow, a stick bow or a gun? Are you worried someone will do better than you? I try to just worry about me.... Take a look at the video I just posted on the beast youtube page about Mario vs the dogs. I was taken back by all the hatefull comments about Mario shooting a crossbow. My common response is that his elbow is permanently locked at 90 degrees and he can't move it, so he cant shoot a regular bow. So why shouldn't he get to enjoy bow season too? Granted, most of the ignorant hate messages are from people assuming he is not disabled. However, what does that matter? You will get guys that say its much easier and more deer will get killed... Well, some of that might be true, it is a little easier, I wouldn't say a lot. You still have to get a deer in bow range. Despite what people say the accurate range of a crossbow is only slightly more that a compound. As far as killing more deer? I think they kill less. Most guys I know that shoot crossbows kill one deer a year... The 1st one they shoot at. I shot 3 deer this year that I did not tag cause they were not recovered. If its a more effective tool at killing, they will wound less, and kill less. Regardless, hunters should not fight among themselves. We have enough enemies. Why are some people so worried someone else might kill a bigger buck, or shoot more? Maybe those people should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they hunt....
mipubbucks24 wrote:dan wrote:I really don't understand why any sensible person cares whether someone else uses a crossbow, a stick bow or a gun? Are you worried someone will do better than you? I try to just worry about me.... Take a look at the video I just posted on the beast youtube page about Mario vs the dogs. I was taken back by all the hatefull comments about Mario shooting a crossbow. My common response is that his elbow is permanently locked at 90 degrees and he can't move it, so he cant shoot a regular bow. So why shouldn't he get to enjoy bow season too? Granted, most of the ignorant hate messages are from people assuming he is not disabled. However, what does that matter? You will get guys that say its much easier and more deer will get killed... Well, some of that might be true, it is a little easier, I wouldn't say a lot. You still have to get a deer in bow range. Despite what people say the accurate range of a crossbow is only slightly more that a compound. As far as killing more deer? I think they kill less. Most guys I know that shoot crossbows kill one deer a year... The 1st one they shoot at. I shot 3 deer this year that I did not tag cause they were not recovered. If its a more effective tool at killing, they will wound less, and kill less. Regardless, hunters should not fight among themselves. We have enough enemies. Why are some people so worried someone else might kill a bigger buck, or shoot more? Maybe those people should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they hunt....
Spot on, can’t understand why anyone would say negative stuff about Mario’s hunt that was a great video and hunt. Seems like one negative thing about hunting beast becoming more popular is getting a lot of the archery talk type folks on the board. People can’t be happy for others success, everything is a competition, and only inches matter. I’m not competing against anyone I’m competing against the deer and myself.
ihookem wrote:mipubbucks24 wrote:dan wrote:I really don't understand why any sensible person cares whether someone else uses a crossbow, a stick bow or a gun? Are you worried someone will do better than you? I try to just worry about me.... Take a look at the video I just posted on the beast youtube page about Mario vs the dogs. I was taken back by all the hatefull comments about Mario shooting a crossbow. My common response is that his elbow is permanently locked at 90 degrees and he can't move it, so he cant shoot a regular bow. So why shouldn't he get to enjoy bow season too? Granted, most of the ignorant hate messages are from people assuming he is not disabled. However, what does that matter? You will get guys that say its much easier and more deer will get killed... Well, some of that might be true, it is a little easier, I wouldn't say a lot. You still have to get a deer in bow range. Despite what people say the accurate range of a crossbow is only slightly more that a compound. As far as killing more deer? I think they kill less. Most guys I know that shoot crossbows kill one deer a year... The 1st one they shoot at. I shot 3 deer this year that I did not tag cause they were not recovered. If its a more effective tool at killing, they will wound less, and kill less. Regardless, hunters should not fight among themselves. We have enough enemies. Why are some people so worried someone else might kill a bigger buck, or shoot more? Maybe those people should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they hunt....
Spot on, can’t understand why anyone would say negative stuff about Mario’s hunt that was a great video and hunt. Seems like one negative thing about hunting beast becoming more popular is getting a lot of the archery talk type folks on the board. People can’t be happy for others success, everything is a competition, and only inches matter. I’m not competing against anyone I’m competing against the deer and myself.
Dan, I get all that and noticed Mario used a crossbow. Being disabled using a crossbow was NEVER the problem. The problem is , I think is crossbows are more effective. It is a superior weapon. The superior weapon needs a separate season . If this is not a true statement, then lets all head to the stand with rifles on opening day of bow. Yes, it's an extreme example but somewhat true. I see all kinds of hunters using crossbows that are much more physically abled than me. . Now lets say we all go to a crossbow and dump our compounds. The next question is, what would happen to the length of bow season? I am sure there would be an over harvest . I doubt our Wisconsin DNR would even notice, none the less even care. All in Wisconsin agree? I bet most would agree. This is my concern about crossbows. The only thing better about a crossbow is I am sure they wound less deer. That is a plus, and should not be used as an excuse however. I have a cousin SHE has a crossbow . She had cancer and said it is harder for her to pull and shoot a regular bow. She however took full advantage of a crossbow . The shop sighted it in for her. She took it home and put 3 arrows in 2" at about 25 yds. and never shot a crossbow before. As for Mario, I am right behind him . My sore rotators never go away. I bought a $1007 Mathews this winter to lower poundage so I can pull the string back when it gets cold. I decided on a Mathews Avail instead of crossbow. I will go down to 50 lbs on that bow and when I cant pull that back a crossbow it will be . Many days, I have tried to pull back my bow @ 54 lbs and cant do it . A crossbow for a physically abled person is a short cut to avoid the practice it takes to be good . This is my opinion. Also Dan, I saw you hit that doe . With a crossbow you would have seen that twig in the scope, I bet and would have got that deer with a crossbow , I am willing to bet. A superior weapon no doubt.
cspot wrote:ihookem wrote:mipubbucks24 wrote:dan wrote:I really don't understand why any sensible person cares whether someone else uses a crossbow, a stick bow or a gun? Are you worried someone will do better than you? I try to just worry about me.... Take a look at the video I just posted on the beast youtube page about Mario vs the dogs. I was taken back by all the hatefull comments about Mario shooting a crossbow. My common response is that his elbow is permanently locked at 90 degrees and he can't move it, so he cant shoot a regular bow. So why shouldn't he get to enjoy bow season too? Granted, most of the ignorant hate messages are from people assuming he is not disabled. However, what does that matter? You will get guys that say its much easier and more deer will get killed... Well, some of that might be true, it is a little easier, I wouldn't say a lot. You still have to get a deer in bow range. Despite what people say the accurate range of a crossbow is only slightly more that a compound. As far as killing more deer? I think they kill less. Most guys I know that shoot crossbows kill one deer a year... The 1st one they shoot at. I shot 3 deer this year that I did not tag cause they were not recovered. If its a more effective tool at killing, they will wound less, and kill less. Regardless, hunters should not fight among themselves. We have enough enemies. Why are some people so worried someone else might kill a bigger buck, or shoot more? Maybe those people should take a long hard look in the mirror and ask themselves why they hunt....
Spot on, can’t understand why anyone would say negative stuff about Mario’s hunt that was a great video and hunt. Seems like one negative thing about hunting beast becoming more popular is getting a lot of the archery talk type folks on the board. People can’t be happy for others success, everything is a competition, and only inches matter. I’m not competing against anyone I’m competing against the deer and myself.
Dan, I get all that and noticed Mario used a crossbow. Being disabled using a crossbow was NEVER the problem. The problem is , I think is crossbows are more effective. It is a superior weapon. The superior weapon needs a separate season . If this is not a true statement, then lets all head to the stand with rifles on opening day of bow. Yes, it's an extreme example but somewhat true. I see all kinds of hunters using crossbows that are much more physically abled than me. . Now lets say we all go to a crossbow and dump our compounds. The next question is, what would happen to the length of bow season? I am sure there would be an over harvest . I doubt our Wisconsin DNR would even notice, none the less even care. All in Wisconsin agree? I bet most would agree. This is my concern about crossbows. The only thing better about a crossbow is I am sure they wound less deer. That is a plus, and should not be used as an excuse however. I have a cousin SHE has a crossbow . She had cancer and said it is harder for her to pull and shoot a regular bow. She however took full advantage of a crossbow . The shop sighted it in for her. She took it home and put 3 arrows in 2" at about 25 yds. and never shot a crossbow before. As for Mario, I am right behind him . My sore rotators never go away. I bought a $1007 Mathews this winter to lower poundage so I can pull the string back when it gets cold. I decided on a Mathews Avail instead of crossbow. I will go down to 50 lbs on that bow and when I cant pull that back a crossbow it will be . Many days, I have tried to pull back my bow @ 54 lbs and cant do it . A crossbow for a physically abled person is a short cut to avoid the practice it takes to be good . This is my opinion. Also Dan, I saw you hit that doe . With a crossbow you would have seen that twig in the scope, I bet and would have got that deer with a crossbow , I am willing to bet. A superior weapon no doubt.
Why do you use a compound and not a traditional bow? In states that keep the statistics the difference in success rates for compound vs traditional is quite a bit. More than the difference between crossbows and compounds. The compound is a far superior weapon than a traditional.
Then even after the weapon let's look at other technology. Do you use a rangefinder, treestand, trail cameras? How about a peep? Sights? release?, drop away rest? THe list can go on and on.
THe same things you are saying was said way back in the day when compounds were legalized by the traditional guys.
Frankly I don't know why some people worry so much about how other hunters hunt.
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