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I’m wondering if thermals play a role in Florida and if so how much? Will my scent rise in the morning, or is that only in hill country? If I hunt in the evening on the edge of a swamp will it pull my scent?
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Wish I had the answer for you...all I know is my wind is all over the place. Drives me nuts....probably because I don't fully understand thermals either.
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Eddiegomes83 wrote:Wish I had the answer for you...all I know is my wind is all over the place. Drives me nuts....probably because I don't fully understand thermals either.
I’m experiencing the same with my wind switching directions. I’m trying to figure out how to play the wind better. At some point my wind will switch to my back sending my scent into the direction I expect deer to come from. It’s not a constant thing, but every 20-30 minutes maybe it will totally switch for a few minutes. I’ve tried some scent control, but I’m usually starting to sweat as soon as I step out of the truck.
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Wind switching every 30 mins throughout the day isn’t thermals, that’s just the wind swirling in the area you are at. You have to find areas where you can get a consistent(ish) direction on your wind.
Thermals pull up very strong during the day when the sun is out, you can get away with murder if you get your scent into areas where the sun can take it up and away.
The swamps pull thermals in the dark, some more than others. It all has to do with temperature. Thermals are created by contrasting and changing temperature. A lot of people think they are caused by topography, but it has little to nothing to do with it.
You just need to get some milkweed and figure it out. A lot of guys check wind with the powder and that is like reading the cover of a book and thinking you learned everything it contains.
Thermals pull up very strong during the day when the sun is out, you can get away with murder if you get your scent into areas where the sun can take it up and away.
The swamps pull thermals in the dark, some more than others. It all has to do with temperature. Thermals are created by contrasting and changing temperature. A lot of people think they are caused by topography, but it has little to nothing to do with it.
You just need to get some milkweed and figure it out. A lot of guys check wind with the powder and that is like reading the cover of a book and thinking you learned everything it contains.
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PK_ wrote:Wind switching every 30 mins throughout the day isn’t thermals, that’s just the wind swirling in the area you are at. You have to find areas where you can get a consistent(ish) direction on your wind.
Thermals pull up very strong during the day when the sun is out, you can get away with murder if you get your scent into areas where the sun can take it up and away.
The swamps pull thermals in the dark, some more than others. It all has to do with temperature. Thermals are created by contrasting and changing temperature. A lot of people think they are caused by topography, but it has little to nothing to do with it.
You just need to get some milkweed and figure it out. A lot of guys check wind with the powder and that is like reading the cover of a book and thinking you learned everything it contains.
Thank you for the feedback PK. Will thermals overpower winds? I can understand the thermal pull in the evening as the air temp drops, but wouldn’t the morning water and air temp be similar?
What about a cloudy day?
I do plan on using milkweed more this season to learn more. I did keep it with me last year, but only used it to check the wind from time to time.
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JDraider wrote:I’m wondering if thermals play a role in Florida and if so how much? Will my scent rise in the morning, or is that only in hill country? If I hunt in the evening on the edge of a swamp will it pull my scent?
The pinned Tactical threads with the pdfs by Fundburke just above, at the bottom, have what you are looking for, scroll.
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Hooks1 wrote:JDraider wrote:I’m wondering if thermals play a role in Florida and if so how much? Will my scent rise in the morning, or is that only in hill country? If I hunt in the evening on the edge of a swamp will it pull my scent?
I was gonna give this a read, but, i'm not sure where its at, or maybe im misunderstanding what youre saying.
Do you have a link?
The pinned Tactical threads with the pdfs by Fundburke just above, at the bottom, have what you are looking for, scroll.
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Here's the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ormf7pvsbcke ... gHgd4a?dl=
scroll to the bottom for wind theramls.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ormf7pvsbcke ... gHgd4a?dl=
scroll to the bottom for wind theramls.
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mag1 wrote:Here's the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ormf7pvsbcke ... gHgd4a?dl=
scroll to the bottom for wind theramls.
Verrry nice!
Thanks
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JDraider wrote:PK_ wrote:Wind switching every 30 mins throughout the day isn’t thermals, that’s just the wind swirling in the area you are at. You have to find areas where you can get a consistent(ish) direction on your wind.
Thermals pull up very strong during the day when the sun is out, you can get away with murder if you get your scent into areas where the sun can take it up and away.
The swamps pull thermals in the dark, some more than others. It all has to do with temperature. Thermals are created by contrasting and changing temperature. A lot of people think they are caused by topography, but it has little to nothing to do with it.
You just need to get some milkweed and figure it out. A lot of guys check wind with the powder and that is like reading the cover of a book and thinking you learned everything it contains.
Thank you for the feedback PK. Will thermals overpower winds? I can understand the thermal pull in the evening as the air temp drops, but wouldn’t the morning water and air temp be similar?
What about a cloudy day?
I do plan on using milkweed more this season to learn more. I did keep it with me last year, but only used it to check the wind from time to time.
Stock up on the milkweed and just get used to dropping it all the time, while walking, sitting, glassing, etc. It'll surprise you sometimes and its the only way to learn it. And drop it from different spots within the spot to see if the micro features nearby are altering it significantly. The midday thermals on a hot n sunny day will allow you alot of wiggle room in terms of access or just moving through an area. You'll also notice as the sun starts get lower, your milkweed will flow towards it, especially as the wind begins to die as itll effect its movement but not override it completely. Regarding the wind swirling, I think one thing that makes Florida unique is how often there are competing winds. You may have an offshore easterly wind, but there could also be a system moving by thats creating a Northern or western wind. As PK mentioned, you may be able find some areas with more consistent winds. Something like a topographical feature such as tree lines guiding multiple winds into a similar area can also help you gameplan. Theres an app called Ventusky that can be helpful with visualizing the multiple winds being generated in the area. As far as cloudy days, in my experience, its effect is reduced significantly.
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weingarb wrote:JDraider wrote:PK_ wrote:Wind switching every 30 mins throughout the day isn’t thermals, that’s just the wind swirling in the area you are at. You have to find areas where you can get a consistent(ish) direction on your wind.
Thermals pull up very strong during the day when the sun is out, you can get away with murder if you get your scent into areas where the sun can take it up and away.
The swamps pull thermals in the dark, some more than others. It all has to do with temperature. Thermals are created by contrasting and changing temperature. A lot of people think they are caused by topography, but it has little to nothing to do with it.
You just need to get some milkweed and figure it out. A lot of guys check wind with the powder and that is like reading the cover of a book and thinking you learned everything it contains.
Thank you for the feedback PK. Will thermals overpower winds? I can understand the thermal pull in the evening as the air temp drops, but wouldn’t the morning water and air temp be similar?
What about a cloudy day?
I do plan on using milkweed more this season to learn more. I did keep it with me last year, but only used it to check the wind from time to time.
Stock up on the milkweed and just get used to dropping it all the time, while walking, sitting, glassing, etc. It'll surprise you sometimes and its the only way to learn it. And drop it from different spots within the spot to see if the micro features nearby are altering it significantly. The midday thermals on a hot n sunny day will allow you alot of wiggle room in terms of access or just moving through an area. You'll also notice as the sun starts get lower, your milkweed will flow towards it, especially as the wind begins to die as itll effect its movement but not override it completely. Regarding the wind swirling, I think one thing that makes Florida unique is how often there are competing winds. You may have an offshore easterly wind, but there could also be a system moving by thats creating a Northern or western wind. As PK mentioned, you may be able find some areas with more consistent winds. Something like a topographical feature such as tree lines guiding multiple winds into a similar area can also help you gameplan. Theres an app called Ventusky that can be helpful with visualizing the multiple winds being generated in the area. As far as cloudy days, in my experience, its effect is reduced significantly.
Thank you for the helpful information
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Hooks1 wrote:JDraider wrote:I’m wondering if thermals play a role in Florida and if so how much? Will my scent rise in the morning, or is that only in hill country? If I hunt in the evening on the edge of a swamp will it pull my scent?
The pinned Tactical threads with the pdfs by Fundburke just above, at the bottom, have what you are looking for, scroll.
Thank you
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Thermals work even when the wind is blowing. A light breeze is tough cause the thermals can pull your scent. Steady 10-15 mph breeze will move your scent but we often get gusty stuff so it pulls it them thermal pull then breeze, etc.
Think about the thermals every time you set up. Flows uphill in morning or day, then down into the swamps around dark and thru the night.
Learn the flow in your hunt areas and use em to your advantage.
I have a creek bottom i hunt. Blows my scent out into open area from sunup til sunfown when it draws down towards the creek.
Think about the thermals every time you set up. Flows uphill in morning or day, then down into the swamps around dark and thru the night.
Learn the flow in your hunt areas and use em to your advantage.
I have a creek bottom i hunt. Blows my scent out into open area from sunup til sunfown when it draws down towards the creek.
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Is there a point in the morning that water temperature is higher than air temperature therefore pulling thermals towards water in the morning? Keep in mind I’m talking Florida and temps usually rise quickly. I’m thinking of that time around sunrise when the air temperature is at its lowest.
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JDraider wrote:Is there a point in the morning that water temperature is higher than air temperature therefore pulling thermals towards water in the morning? Keep in mind I’m talking Florida and temps usually rise quickly. I’m thinking of that time around sunrise when the air temperature is at its lowest.
PK_ wrote:The swamps pull thermals in the dark.
Dusk to dawn you can generally bank on thermals being pulled to the water. When the sun is rising or setting, the air will generally pull towards the sun on the horizon.
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