The Hunting Beast

Tennhunter3 wrote:

ThePreBanMan wrote:OnXand aerial maps are often times far from accurate. The Mass online GIS maps say my property line runs through my garage...

If you want to be 100% sure you have to have a survey done. That would be at your expense and would pretty much advertise your intent and commitment to the spot.

I would just move on. There are plenty of fish in the sea...


But if you insist.... Everyone had a boss. Compile your evidence and send it to his, or the division head of the agency he works for.

2nd. Report it to the govonnor's office you suspect he was drinking on the job. Reporting it to a different branch of gov is important because his buddies can't sweep it under the rug. They'll be accountable to the administration now. If his boss has any clue at all he will already have some suspicion. This will force his hand.

Accept the consequences of your choices. This may not work out and you'll have to not only wrote off the spot, but probably the area in which the warden serves.

If he was or wasn't drinking I have no solid evidence and it would further create conflict between me and him. I do have intent to hunt this wma again.

Sure I have many other spots to hunt.

I just tried to do the right thing in saying i think one of their lines is off. I took time out of my day to go talk to the gentleman. I didn't go to start conflict only to do the right thing.

His stern refusal to even go look at the line or say he would at a later date seemed quite odd.
The line was far enough off I found it important to say something if it had been 10 yards I never would have said a word.

This experience has taught me that wardens will always see themselves as correct and every other person wrong. Kinda sad that just because they obtain a degree they automatically know more then everyone else.

I've walked probably 20 wma edges in this wma it's in pieces and all others have been very close to the county and onyx.

Honestly I could've just hunted the spot and noone would've said a thing. Whether the wma line is moved or not wouldn't have affected if I hunted it or not. The marking are on the outside of the trees facing the neighbors property their is no clear boundary from the Wma side or posted signs of the neighbors. I just honestly felt it was quite a bit off so I mentioned it to him.

Obviously I made a mistake by trying to do the right thing. I think hunters deserve for lines to be marked fairly be it wma or private.

With no line being visible from the wma side and going in before daylight your flashlight would never hit a boundary. Plus GPS would not pass the state or onyx boundary. So in this case in court I think I would be in the clear.

jmaas07 wrote:Could be possible that you came across in a way that he was offended right of the jump. He could have taken it as this guy strolls in and tells me how to do my job. Sometimes the first impression sets the tone for how the rest of the conversation/situation will play out whether your in the right or not

Jonny wrote:Nothing wrong with playing it safe though. It’s only a deer. Not really worth all the legal trouble

Jonny wrote:If onx and county gis both agree I trust that and don’t ask any more questions. I always back up onx with a second official source. Don’t think onx will hold up in court but I’ll take my chances with a government surveyed map.

Nothing wrong with playing it safe though. It’s only a deer. Not really worth all the legal trouble

Tennhunter3 wrote:

jmaas07 wrote:Could be possible that you came across in a way that he was offended right of the jump. He could have taken it as this guy strolls in and tells me how to do my job. Sometimes the first impression sets the tone for how the rest of the conversation/situation will play out whether your in the right or not

True
But if a warden can't admit that they are human and make mistakes from time to time. They have no business being in a position of power. He refused to even look at it which admits his guilt.

Then any question a hunter, fisherman, or other outdoorsman has he would think he is always right regardless of the situation.

He in a way defrauded the state by how his line was drawn out of trees that could have been logged but were not. He just never planned on anyone figuring it out. It's not worth all the trouble to me over a deer but it bothers that people in positions of power think they are always correct when they arent.

Kraftd wrote:

Tennhunter3 wrote:

jmaas07 wrote:Could be possible that you came across in a way that he was offended right of the jump. He could have taken it as this guy strolls in and tells me how to do my job. Sometimes the first impression sets the tone for how the rest of the conversation/situation will play out whether your in the right or not

True
But if a warden can't admit that they are human and make mistakes from time to time. They have no business being in a position of power. He refused to even look at it which admits his guilt.

Then any question a hunter, fisherman, or other outdoorsman has he would think he is always right regardless of the situation.

He in a way defrauded the state by how his line was drawn out of trees that could have been logged but were not. He just never planned on anyone figuring it out. It's not worth all the trouble to me over a deer but it bothers that people in positions of power think they are always correct when they arent.

Could have also been is testiness was more of a man, its hot outside, the line's the line, do what you feel is best, I ain't coming in after you and I have no intent of marking it again. He can't just tell you that, maybe thought you would get the hint and then things escalated?

Andyschulte wrote:I’d stay on the public side of the red marked trees. Last thing you’d need is to get hammered with trespassing or poaching.