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Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Tim H » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:22 am

It feels like we've down this road several times. Here's the latest news. I've seen it on two different news stations.

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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Jonny » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:40 am

I’ll wish him the best of luck but I’m not holding my breath on it
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Unread postby Tim H » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:43 am

Jonny wrote:I’ll wish him the best of luck but I’m not holding my breath on it


They are optimistic on this since it's co-sponsored by Tammy Baldwin. A bipartisanship on the matter might help.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Jonny » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:54 am

NorthwoodsWiscoHnter wrote:
Jonny wrote:I’ll wish him the best of luck but I’m not holding my breath on it


They are optimistic on this since it's co-sponsored by Tammy Baldwin. A bipartisanship on the matter might help.


Still has to not get shut down by a federal judge. That’s what killed it last time
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby matt1336 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:09 am

Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Dewey » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:47 am

matt1336 wrote:Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice

Ask this guy how that worked out for him. :whistle:

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles ... agles-more

Sounds like a pretty expensive hunt. Think I’ll pass on that one. :o
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Tim H » Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:51 am

Dewey wrote:
matt1336 wrote:Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice

Ask this guy how that worked out for him. :whistle:

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles ... agles-more


Potential 4 1/2 years of jail time. I wonder what he thinks now if it was worth it.
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Unread postby matt1336 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:42 am

Right or wrong, there’s no denying that it’s common.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby tundra@1 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:42 pm

First of all if you did shoot one, you would be pretty dumb to approach it, to use a shovel to bury it. You would be better off leaving it alone, many have chips in them. Johnson and Baldwin have done this before. The issue is getting the USFWS, to present a case, that would not be beat. last time they did poorly on their presentation . However they are going back to.the courts this summer, so we will see.
I am in wolf country, SSS is mostly just talk. I know one trapper who had to kill one. It cost him 1200.00. Lesson learned I for one know we need state control, but I do not. believe in breaking the law.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby KRONIIK » Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:54 am

NorthwoodsWiscoHnter wrote:
Dewey wrote:
matt1336 wrote:Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice

Ask this guy how that worked out for him. :whistle:

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles ... agles-more


Potential 4 1/2 years of jail time. I wonder what he thinks now if it was worth it.



Ethics and legalities aside, (personally I think he should get an award of some kind), ya gotta admit that the guy must have been a pretty good woodsman.
(Unless he poisoned them or something).
Article didn't mention method of take.

Wolves don't let you just walk up and shoot them.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby greenhorndave » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:34 am

KRONIIK wrote:
NorthwoodsWiscoHnter wrote:
Dewey wrote:
matt1336 wrote:Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice

Ask this guy how that worked out for him. :whistle:

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles ... agles-more


Potential 4 1/2 years of jail time. I wonder what he thinks now if it was worth it.



Ethics and legalities aside, (personally I think he should get an award of some kind), ya gotta admit that the guy must have been a pretty good woodsman.
(Unless he poisoned them or something).
Article didn't mention method of take.

Wolves don't let you just walk up and shoot them.

Yeah, they guy doesn’t seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer from a judgement standpoint, but I agree with you on the woodsman part.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby john1984 » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:10 am

greenhorndave wrote:
KRONIIK wrote:
NorthwoodsWiscoHnter wrote:
Dewey wrote:
matt1336 wrote:Does it really matter? I mean.....sss is pretty much a widely accepted practice

Ask this guy how that worked out for him. :whistle:

https://wwjnewsradio.radio.com/articles ... agles-more


Potential 4 1/2 years of jail time. I wonder what he thinks now if it was worth it.



Ethics and legalities aside, (personally I think he should get an award of some kind), ya gotta admit that the guy must have been a pretty good woodsman.
(Unless he poisoned them or something).
Article didn't mention method of take.

Wolves don't let you just walk up and shoot them.

Yeah, they guy doesn’t seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer from a judgement standpoint, but I agree with you on the woodsman part.


The article said the guy was poaching all kinds of animals not just a wolf.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Uncle Lou » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:51 am

I hope states get management. What many wolf lovers don't understand is that if you put hunters/conservationists in charge of the wolves they will never be extinct. Just managed. Seems like a win win, but many on that side don't understand our position.
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Hatchetman » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:23 pm

You do realize how they get you if you plug a wolf , don't you?

If a wolf dies with a transmitter., it sends out a signal when it goes cold, saying it's dead and sending out GPS coordinates of its location.
Once they find out how it died and if it was from a gun shot, all they have to do is contact the cell phone companies and get a record of what phones pinged in that general location at the time it went cold.
Bingo, your busted!

Moral of story... Leave cell phone turned off at all times when your in the wolfy woods...
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Re: Sen Ron Johnson pushes to De-list Gray Wolf from Endangered List

Unread postby Dewey » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:21 pm

Hatchetman wrote:You do realize how they get you if you plug a wolf , don't you?

If a wolf dies with a transmitter., it sends out a signal when it goes cold, saying it's dead and sending out GPS coordinates of its location.
Once they find out how it died and if it was from a gun shot, all they have to do is contact the cell phone companies and get a record of what phones pinged in that general location at the time it went cold.
Bingo, your busted!

Moral of story... Leave cell phone turned off at all times when your in the wolfy woods...

Yep. You start shooting federally protected species and it’s a different ballgame.


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