CWD... You eating?

[Dewey]

Bunch of fellas here saying they would eat a known positive deer... Is there anyone that knowingly has?

Not knowingly but in the late 90's our group tagged out on archery mule deer in extreme NW Nebraska and later found out the area we killed them had an extremely high infection rate. Odds are pretty good we had at least one positive deer among us. The deer were all consumed by then so it didn't really matter. Over 20 years later we're all still here, healthy and no signs of anything out of the ordinary other than typical old age memory loss.

[ThePreBanMan]

It will eventually be nationwide. It's only a matter of time.... sadly.

[DaveT1963]

Ok I stand corrected cooking wont kill CWD. I still struggle to find one actual case where it was transferred by eating.... you would think predators would be dropping like flies? I still think it's a great idea to thoroughly cook all game and fish.

I'm not sure I'd eat a positive tested animal, but truthfully I dont worry about it and have never had an animal tested.

BTW, keep eating your potatoes, corn and other veggies.... or did you not here that most commercially grown vegetables have been modified with roundup in the seed.... so insects wont eat plants that have been modified like this.... no food source is safe these days unless you grow or raise it yourself. BTW all deer eat ag products heavily sprayed with the crap.

[Rich M]

I'll be hunting an area with mandatory CWD testing this fall. Asked GW and he said that there have been 0/no cases, that the state is doing the testing to determine where the CWD is. True/not true? I dunno. Why test it if no positives?

If the state tells me the meat is tainted, I'm tossing it, even if it is 250# of elk meat. Not gonna take risks with mine or other people's long term health over a deer/elk/whatever.

Also, if there are positive test results, won't be going back.

[DaveT1963]

Ok I stand corrected cooking wont kill CWD. I still struggle to find one actual case where it was transferred by eating.... you would think predators would be dropping like flies? I still think it's a great idea to thoroughly cook all game and fish.

I'm not sure I'd eat a positive tested animal, but truthfully I dont worry about it and have never had an animal tested.

BTW, keep eating your potatoes, corn and other veggies.... or did you not here that most commercially grown vegetables have been modified with roundup in the seed.... so insects wont eat plants that have been modified like this.... no food source is safe these days unless you grow or raise it yourself. BTW all deer eat ag products heavily sprayed with the crap.

[SamPotter]

Bunch of fellas here saying they would eat a known positive deer... Is there anyone that knowingly has?

Not knowingly but in the late 90's our group tagged out on archery mule deer in extreme NW Nebraska and later found out the area we killed them had an extremely high infection rate. Odds are pretty good we had at least one positive deer among us. The deer were all consumed by then so it didn't really matter. Over 20 years later we're all still here, healthy and no signs of anything out of the ordinary other than typical old age memory loss.

Close Dewey, but I’m still looking for someone that has truly put their money where their mouth is...

[SamPotter]

I just got a “not detected” result back on a doe I shot in a CWD zone. Glad for that after the 4+ hours of processing the other night. There’s no way I would feed that to my 19 month old son though had it been positive.

[Lu Rome]

Not knowingly but in the late 90's our group tagged out on archery mule deer in extreme NW Nebraska and later found out the area we killed them had an extremely high infection rate. Odds are pretty good we had at least one positive deer among us. The deer were all consumed by then so it didn't really matter. Over 20 years later we're all still here, healthy and no signs of anything out of the ordinary other than typical old age memory loss.

CWD wasn't found in NE until 2000. Those early years had very low rates of infection, but it's climbed since then.

[Kraftd]

I answered no, and am pretty firm in that but I guess I'm a hypocrite since I've never got one tested, though the two counties I've shot most of my deer have mostly been cautionary. Keep thinking I should get them tested, but never actually do it. Maybe just worried about having to make this call....

If I killed one in a known COunty I'd get it tested for sure.

[Dewey]

Not knowingly but in the late 90's our group tagged out on archery mule deer in extreme NW Nebraska and later found out the area we killed them had an extremely high infection rate. Odds are pretty good we had at least one positive deer among us. The deer were all consumed by then so it didn't really matter. Over 20 years later we're all still here, healthy and no signs of anything out of the ordinary other than typical old age memory loss.

CWD wasn't found in NE until 2000. Those early years had very low rates of infection, but it's climbed since then.

This was 1998 in NW Nebraska not NE. The articles I read back around 2000 said the specific area we were hunting was extremely high. I don’t have any data to prove just going by what I read back then.

This map shows the area we hunted with the cluster of positives.



Honestly though odds are many of us in WI have likely unknowingly eaten positive deer because we test very few. Haven’t heard of a single connection anywhere in the state for brain diseases related to eating venison. All the old deer hunters I know that died lived healthy lives dying of natural causes not at all related to CWD caused illnesses.

[stash59]

It will eventually be nationwide. It's only a matter of time.... sadly.

My bet is it is already nation wide. And always has been. Just never been tested for, before. How else is it getting all over, so fast. Since the big scare here in WI a few years ago!!!!

There can't be that many hunters bringing home infected animals, from CWD areas. Nor can that many infected animals be cross contaminating each other. Without widespread die offs. That would be noticed by hunters and state game depts.

[austin1990]

It will eventually be nationwide. It's only a matter of time.... sadly.

My bet is it is already nation wide. And always has been. Just never been tested for, before. How else is it getting all over, so fast. Since the big scare here in WI a few years ago!!!!

There can't be that many hunters bringing home infected animals, from CWD areas. Nor can that many infected animals be cross contaminating each other. Without widespread die offs. That would be noticed by hunters and state game depts.

I'm not sure how its spreading in other states but here in Arkansas I blame it all on our game and fish bringing in the elk. They brought in elk in the late 80s, early 90s and restocked. The elk they stocked with were wild captured elk from Colorado, from a known cwd area. Where they released the elk is coincidentally now where the epicenter of the cwd hot zone is located and we have one of the highest positive test ratio in the entire country. They didnt start testing for cwd til a couple years ago in the elk and never tested any deer until after an elk tested positive.

[ThePreBanMan]

Ok I stand corrected cooking wont kill CWD. I still struggle to find one actual case where it was transferred by eating.... you would think predators would be dropping like flies? I still think it's a great idea to thoroughly cook all game and fish.

I'm not sure I'd eat a positive tested animal, but truthfully I dont worry about it and have never had an animal tested.

BTW, keep eating your potatoes, corn and other veggies.... or did you not here that most commercially grown vegetables have been modified with roundup in the seed.... so insects wont eat plants that have been modified like this.... no food source is safe these days unless you grow or raise it yourself. BTW all deer eat ag products heavily sprayed with the crap.

Roundup is an herbicide and it kills plants. Any farmer who likes money would not be modifying their crops with it. I think what you mean is cross breading... which is when, for example in the case of corn, they take 2 breeds of corn and plant the different breeds in alternating rows. When the corn grows to the point where it grows tops/tassels, they top the corn (cut off the top tassels) of the breed A they do not want to pollinate breed B. So what you're left with is breed B which then pollinates breed A. This is crossbreeding or sometimes referred to as GMO (genetically modified). They do it to bring out the desirable traits in different breeds. Like resistance to insects, higher yields, drought resistance, etc.

I think sometimes round up may be used to kill weeds in some agro use cases though. But they aren't mixing it with their cash crops. Not if they want to keep the farm. I think pesticides are much more of a concern. Some of them are pretty nasty.

All that said, why compound risky behavior by consuming disease-ridden meat?

[wolverinebuckman]

Ok I stand corrected cooking wont kill CWD. I still struggle to find one actual case where it was transferred by eating.... you would think predators would be dropping like flies? I still think it's a great idea to thoroughly cook all game and fish.

I'm not sure I'd eat a positive tested animal, but truthfully I dont worry about it and have never had an animal tested.

BTW, keep eating your potatoes, corn and other veggies.... or did you not here that most commercially grown vegetables have been modified with roundup in the seed.... so insects wont eat plants that have been modified like this.... no food source is safe these days unless you grow or raise it yourself. BTW all deer eat ag products heavily sprayed with the crap.

Roundup is an herbicide and it kills plants. Any farmer who likes money would not be modifying their crops with it. I think what you mean is cross breading... which is when, for example in the case of corn, they take 2 breeds of corn and plant the different breeds in alternating rows. When the corn grows to the point where it grows tops/tassels, they top the corn (cut off the top tassels) of the breed A they do not want to pollinate breed B. So what you're left with is breed B which then pollinates breed A. This is crossbreeding or sometimes referred to as GMO (genetically modified). They do it to bring out the desirable traits in different breeds. Like resistance to insects, higher yields, drought resistance, etc.

I think sometimes round up may be used to kill weeds in some agro use cases though. But they aren't mixing it with their cash crops. Not if they want to keep the farm. I think pesticides are much more of a concern. Some of them are pretty nasty.

All that said, why compound risky behavior by consuming disease-ridden meat?

About Roundup Ready CropsJean Roe - Fields
"Genetically Modified Food
Roundup Ready crops are crops genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup. Roundup is the brand-name of a herbicide produced by Monsanto. Its active ingredient glyphosate was patented in the 1970s. Roundup is widely used by both people in their backyards and farmers in their fields. Roundup Ready plants are resistant to Roundup, so farmers that plant these seeds must use Roundup to keep other weeds from growing in their fields.

The first Roundup Ready crops were developed in 1996, with the introduction of genetically modified soybeans that are resistant to Roundup. These crops were developed to help farmers control weeds. Because the new crops are resistant to Roundup, the herbicide can be used in the fields to eliminate unwanted foliage. Current Roundup Ready crops include soy, corn, canola, alfalfa, cotton, and sorghum, with wheat under development.

Roundup Ready crop seeds have notoriously been referred to as "terminator seeds." This is because the crops produced from Roundup Ready seeds are sterile. Each year, farmers must purchase the most recent strain of seed from Monsanto. This means that farmers cannot reuse their best seed. Read more about terminator seeds.

To read more about genetically modified food from a few different perspectives, check out the key players page. To learn more about the impact of Roundup Ready seeds, check out the impact page."

"If Roundup Ready® Corn is consumed, can roundup be detected in the human body shortly after consumption? Application of Roundup brand herbicides sometimes results in a small amount of glyphosate residues in crops and commodities intended for human and animal use. Regulatory agencies, particularly the U.S. EPA, take the potential for consumption of such residues into consideration. Regulatory agencies establish the maximum level of residues allowed in food and feed as well as the allowable daily intake of those residues. Most glyphosate that is consumed just passes through the digestive tract unabsorbed. The fraction that is absorbed is rapidly eliminated from the body and does not accumulate in our body; "

[ThePreBanMan]

Ok I stand corrected cooking wont kill CWD. I still struggle to find one actual case where it was transferred by eating.... you would think predators would be dropping like flies? I still think it's a great idea to thoroughly cook all game and fish.

I'm not sure I'd eat a positive tested animal, but truthfully I dont worry about it and have never had an animal tested.

BTW, keep eating your potatoes, corn and other veggies.... or did you not here that most commercially grown vegetables have been modified with roundup in the seed.... so insects wont eat plants that have been modified like this.... no food source is safe these days unless you grow or raise it yourself. BTW all deer eat ag products heavily sprayed with the crap.

Roundup is an herbicide and it kills plants. Any farmer who likes money would not be modifying their crops with it. I think what you mean is cross breading... which is when, for example in the case of corn, they take 2 breeds of corn and plant the different breeds in alternating rows. When the corn grows to the point where it grows tops/tassels, they top the corn (cut off the top tassels) of the breed A they do not want to pollinate breed B. So what you're left with is breed B which then pollinates breed A. This is crossbreeding or sometimes referred to as GMO (genetically modified). They do it to bring out the desirable traits in different breeds. Like resistance to insects, higher yields, drought resistance, etc.

I think sometimes round up may be used to kill weeds in some agro use cases though. But they aren't mixing it with their cash crops. Not if they want to keep the farm. I think pesticides are much more of a concern. Some of them are pretty nasty.

All that said, why compound risky behavior by consuming disease-ridden meat?

About Roundup Ready CropsJean Roe - Fields
"Genetically Modified Food
Roundup Ready crops are crops genetically modified to be resistant to the herbicide Roundup. Roundup is the brand-name of a herbicide produced by Monsanto. Its active ingredient glyphosate was patented in the 1970s. Roundup is widely used by both people in their backyards and farmers in their fields. Roundup Ready plants are resistant to Roundup, so farmers that plant these seeds must use Roundup to keep other weeds from growing in their fields.

The first Roundup Ready crops were developed in 1996, with the introduction of genetically modified soybeans that are resistant to Roundup. These crops were developed to help farmers control weeds. Because the new crops are resistant to Roundup, the herbicide can be used in the fields to eliminate unwanted foliage. Current Roundup Ready crops include soy, corn, canola, alfalfa, cotton, and sorghum, with wheat under development.

Roundup Ready crop seeds have notoriously been referred to as "terminator seeds." This is because the crops produced from Roundup Ready seeds are sterile. Each year, farmers must purchase the most recent strain of seed from Monsanto. This means that farmers cannot reuse their best seed. Read more about terminator seeds.

To read more about genetically modified food from a few different perspectives, check out the key players page. To learn more about the impact of Roundup Ready seeds, check out the impact page."

"If Roundup Ready® Corn is consumed, can roundup be detected in the human body shortly after consumption? Application of Roundup brand herbicides sometimes results in a small amount of glyphosate residues in crops and commodities intended for human and animal use. Regulatory agencies, particularly the U.S. EPA, take the potential for consumption of such residues into consideration. Regulatory agencies establish the maximum level of residues allowed in food and feed as well as the allowable daily intake of those residues. Most glyphosate that is consumed just passes through the digestive tract unabsorbed. The fraction that is absorbed is rapidly eliminated from the body and does not accumulate in our body; "

That's messed up. I had no idea they had round up resistant crops... That stuff destroys anything it touches. I can't imagine plants surviving it but I learned me suttin...