How close is to close?...to private land borders.
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How close is to close?...to private land borders.
I posted this question to the beast and saddle hunter faceboook pages but wanted to take a deeper dive into the topic via the the forum. This past late winter I scouted this area that I refer to as a "buffer zone" that's anywhere from 10-20 yards wide and sits between the private land fence and a large pine plantation that's on state land. Its made up of tall grasses, briers etc. Last week I went back there because I wanted to see what the private land owner was planting for this years crops and found 4-5 really good apple trees in this "buffer zone" that is on state land. I know there's trails running parallel between the fence and pines and now I know there is an early season food source, but the problem is "how close is to close". I plan to talk with the private land owner and ask him if hes allowed others to access his property to find a deer that had been shot.
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Depends on the private if its posted heavily I'd sit 20 yards back since the landowners picky. To prevent any problems.
I have a sit I hunt out of the tree with the boundary painted on it. It's not posted at all by the landowner.
Really depends how the trails run mostly the bucks run on the boundary lines because of the transition.
I have a sit I hunt out of the tree with the boundary painted on it. It's not posted at all by the landowner.
Really depends how the trails run mostly the bucks run on the boundary lines because of the transition.
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As long as your not shooting onto private property in my mind your good.
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I would use OnX to find out the name of the owner and tell him that you are hunting back there... He can't legally stop you so there is nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain...Good chance if you shoot something in the buffer zone the deer will die on his property and you'll need to get permission to retrieve it. Best option in my mind to avoid a future confrontation is to be up front with him and try to develop a relationship... If you do meet him and shoot something back there, take him some backstraps and thank him for being a good neighbor.
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Brokenarrow1980 wrote:As long as your not shooting onto private property in my mind your good.
I agree. IMO I’ve got just as much right to hunt every square inch of my property as he does his. Just don’t shoot or cross the boundaries without permission.
As much as we like to think we do sometimes, we don’t own the deer.
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I agree with what has been said. Contact the landowner and see what kind of vibe you get. You may very well have to recover a deer that crossed the line. If the guy is a jerk it may not be worth the trouble. But, as long as your not shooting across the line you are legal to hunt there if you want. I have sat many spots that are on property borders due to those lines being transitions. I try to set up with my back to the private land. I try to avoid shooting a deer that is pointed towards the private because I find that they more often than not run straight the way they are pointed immediately after the shot.
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Southern Buck wrote:Brokenarrow1980 wrote:As long as your not shooting onto private property in my mind your good.
I agree. IMO I’ve got just as much right to hunt every square inch of my property as he does his. Just don’t shoot or cross the boundaries without permission.
As much as we like to think we do sometimes, we don’t own the deer.
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I’ve seen plenty of borders where the private side is sitting the line. The public side should be able to do the same. IMO there is no “buffer zone” there’s the line. If I think the best spot to kill is 3 yards from the line that’s where I’ll be. I have a couple rut spots that are funnels created by the line and shot my first bow buck this year 5 yards in the public off a private fence. Like the others have said as long as you’re not shooting onto private you’re good.
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If u can i guess i would ask if the land owner would be ok if you had to go onto his property to retrive a deer. I can see something like that getting ugly real quick
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Hunt the line if you want! Just never..... never shot over the line unless you have permission.
I hunt with a friend a couple days a year both he and his neighbor will hunt close to the line. Last year they both picked the same spot to hunt one evening
I hunt with a friend a couple days a year both he and his neighbor will hunt close to the line. Last year they both picked the same spot to hunt one evening
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Whatever is legal, I have no problem with regarding property lines
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Randyflash wrote:I would use OnX to find out the name of the owner and tell him that you are hunting back there... He can't legally stop you so there is nothing to lose and potentially a lot to gain...Good chance if you shoot something in the buffer zone the deer will die on his property and you'll need to get permission to retrieve it. Best option in my mind to avoid a future confrontation is to be up front with him and try to develop a relationship... If you do meet him and shoot something back there, take him some backstraps and thank him for being a good neighbor.
Great advice.
Also just because you CAN hunt right on the edge of private doesn’t mean you SHOULD. I like to keep at least a 100 yard buffer. I just never felt right crowding somebody's private land.
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Sit as close as u want just be prepared to deal with the fact that you could shoot a booner and not be able to recover it.
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As many have said too close is all relative. Legally there is no issue hunting right to the line as long as you dont cross or shoot across it. I would definitely talk to him about potentially recovering one there(some states require landowner permission, and others do not. Although we ask even though no required by law). I would tread lightly on how much information you give about hunting there to the landowner or you could have a family going for walks or atv rides past your honeyhole every night depending on their views on hunting.
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Ideally you’d be set back enough to allow an animal to expire without crossing a property line. However if that is isn’t plausible for any number of factors say you sit closer to the line just anchor the animal with your initial shot. Simple. Many states also allow you to cross into private to recover game as well.
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[quote="bigbuckhunter88"]As many have said too close is all relative. Legally there is no issue hunting right to the line as long as you dont cross or shoot across it. I would definitely talk to him about potentially recovering one there(some states require landowner permission, and others do not. Although we ask even though no required by law). I would tread lightly on how much information you give about hunting there to the landowner or you could have a family going for walks or atv rides past your honeyhole every night depending on their views on hunting.[/quote]
This. My experience with private landowners that boarder public has not been good. Unfortunately the landowners I’ve talked to, most (not over exaggerating) of them tend to believe that the public land around their property belongs to them as well or they just don’t like hunting in general. I’ve been burned so much by landowners in the past while I’ve tried to play nice, that I’ve decided to just hunt on the property I’m allowed to hunt on and not really care what they think. With the gps tech now, there’s no middle ground about what is and isn’t public.
I’ve tried with several property owners. I’ve brought them venison, told them when we are doing deer drives and gave him and his wife the best stands. It still didn’t work.
I’ve had deputies and Dnr called on me (land owner got the ticket lol) I’ve had landowners yell at ducks and geese that were about to land just before my kid was ready to shoot. I’ve had four wheelers driven all over the property (mfl property) while I hunted. I’ve reported landowners to the Dnr for moving public land boundary signs and having illegal stands.
Bottom line, I’ve had too many bad experiences to let anyone know where I’d be hunting for me to introduce myself to them again. I’ll hunt where it’s legal. It’s best that they don’t know me and or when I’m there. If the property owner doesn’t allow me to get a deer, that’s on him or her. I did my part. I played the game legally. If they don’t want to let me get the dead animal, that’s on them. I’ll just keep hunting.
Believe me, I’ve tried. I cannot remember one good encounter with these landowners. The funny thing is that I grew up on my dads 40 that boarder the kettle moraine sf. We let people get deer that died on our land. We had plenty hunt near our fence line and we never had a problem. I’m fact I’ve helped drag deer and I’ve had helping dragging deer with other guys. We’d allowed them access to our place so they would’ve have to drag the deer a mile to the nearest road.
So whatever landowners. It’s not that hard to play nice with nice public land hunters. For a few years now, they won’t see me unless I have to ask to get a deer on their land. That’s what worked best for me.
This. My experience with private landowners that boarder public has not been good. Unfortunately the landowners I’ve talked to, most (not over exaggerating) of them tend to believe that the public land around their property belongs to them as well or they just don’t like hunting in general. I’ve been burned so much by landowners in the past while I’ve tried to play nice, that I’ve decided to just hunt on the property I’m allowed to hunt on and not really care what they think. With the gps tech now, there’s no middle ground about what is and isn’t public.
I’ve tried with several property owners. I’ve brought them venison, told them when we are doing deer drives and gave him and his wife the best stands. It still didn’t work.
I’ve had deputies and Dnr called on me (land owner got the ticket lol) I’ve had landowners yell at ducks and geese that were about to land just before my kid was ready to shoot. I’ve had four wheelers driven all over the property (mfl property) while I hunted. I’ve reported landowners to the Dnr for moving public land boundary signs and having illegal stands.
Bottom line, I’ve had too many bad experiences to let anyone know where I’d be hunting for me to introduce myself to them again. I’ll hunt where it’s legal. It’s best that they don’t know me and or when I’m there. If the property owner doesn’t allow me to get a deer, that’s on him or her. I did my part. I played the game legally. If they don’t want to let me get the dead animal, that’s on them. I’ll just keep hunting.
Believe me, I’ve tried. I cannot remember one good encounter with these landowners. The funny thing is that I grew up on my dads 40 that boarder the kettle moraine sf. We let people get deer that died on our land. We had plenty hunt near our fence line and we never had a problem. I’m fact I’ve helped drag deer and I’ve had helping dragging deer with other guys. We’d allowed them access to our place so they would’ve have to drag the deer a mile to the nearest road.
So whatever landowners. It’s not that hard to play nice with nice public land hunters. For a few years now, they won’t see me unless I have to ask to get a deer on their land. That’s what worked best for me.
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