No buck hunting in Buffalo county?

[Tim H]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

[Jonny]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

[Tim H]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

[Jonny]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

I'm just happy my county has the right goal. Don't agree with how they are trying to achieve it, but I'm happy they at least understand what everybody (vast majority according to the survey) want. Small steps in the right direction are better than faceplanting backwards like some counties are trying to do.

[greenhorndave]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

I wouldn't feel bad about that. In fact, I would encourage you to apply. We can't change anything if we whine about it from the sidelines. You would most likely be a huge boost to the CDAC. Get a couple of allies to join you and who knows what kind of sanity you could bring to that group?

[Tim H]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

I wouldn't feel bad about that. In fact, I would encourage you to apply. We can't change anything if we whine about it from the sidelines. You would most likely be a huge boost to the CDAC. Get a couple of allies to join you and who knows what kind of sanity you could bring to that group?

I did apply for the CDAC in my county 2 years ago I think. I wasn't accepted on their council, I forget the reasoning. But if it's available again, I probably wouldn't apply. I just don't think there would be an upside to it for me.

[greenhorndave]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

I wouldn't feel bad about that. In fact, I would encourage you to apply. We can't change anything if we whine about it from the sidelines. You would most likely be a huge boost to the CDAC. Get a couple of allies to join you and who knows what kind of sanity you could bring to that group?

I did apply for the CDAC in my county 2 years ago I think. I wasn't accepted on their council, I forget the reasoning. But if it's available again, I probably wouldn't apply. I just don't think there would be an upside to it for me.

I get it. It's a big commitment and it would have to compete for time with what we love, the actual hunting and scouting. I'm not excited about these kinds of boards that are likely very political, but it's good to have solid people on them. I'm not saying the boards don't have solid people on them, just more with a solid grasp of hunting on public would have to be a benefit.

[dan]

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It was never going to happen. Just scare tactics. Just like Waupaca County last year.

Agreed. It's crazy though that the CDAC would even try to propose this given the history of the county for big bucks.

Its just some select people sticking their chest out and trying to prove a point. Low level politics at its finest

And to think I applied to be apart of the CDACs in my county. I guess politics isn't my game.

I wouldn't feel bad about that. In fact, I would encourage you to apply. We can't change anything if we whine about it from the sidelines. You would most likely be a huge boost to the CDAC. Get a couple of allies to join you and who knows what kind of sanity you could bring to that group?

I did apply for the CDAC in my county 2 years ago I think. I wasn't accepted on their council, I forget the reasoning. But if it's available again, I probably wouldn't apply. I just don't think there would be an upside to it for me.

I get it. It's a big commitment and it would have to compete for time with what we love, the actual hunting and scouting. I'm not excited about these kinds of boards that are likely very political, but it's good to have solid people on them. I'm not saying the boards don't have solid people on them, just more with a solid grasp of hunting on public would have to be a benefit.

Im thinking they would not take a Man like Tim... They are looking for sheep. I had several "good" people in the DNR recommend me and they turned me down... Its probably good anyway, cause if we did squeak in they would surly push us right back out when we did'nt agree to lower or maintain the herd and made a solid point about why it needs to increase and be managed better... CDAC is supposed to be an advisory committee, not puppets that check one of 2 boxes and all the hand picked members don't speak up cause they don't want to get kicked off...

[greenhorndave]

Hearings are probably the best avenue without wading in the political manure at least to provide some voice.

Changing the makeup of the committees is the surest way to get change, but the old guard ain't going to give up the power without a fight. I hope it doesn't go downhill enough to make that an absolute necessity.

[dan]

Hearings are probably the best avenue without wading in the political manure at least to provide some voice.

Changing the makeup of the committees is the surest way to get change, but the old guard ain't going to give up the power without a fight. I hope it doesn't go downhill enough to make that an absolute necessity.

Without Walker in office I doubt it would make any difference... The time to step up as passed us by. At least for now.

[GranLightning16]

Not sure I'm following the political tracks back to how Walker would/made this a better situation? Was it not under his DNR that the whole thing was set up, and the players making decisions were, in your words, "placing puppets." How would it be better under Walker if the shot callers were still there?

[dan]

Not sure I'm following the political tracks back to how Walker would/made this a better situation? Was it not under his DNR that the whole thing was set up, and the players making decisions were, in your words, "placing puppets." How would it be better under Walker if the shot callers were still there?

Exactly, Walker set it up for us to have a voice, he just did not finish the job. He got it 1/2 done. The DNR manipulated his decision to allow the public oversight committee and by the time we realized it was being perverted it was to late and Walker was on the way out... Good luck getting Evers to do anything that is not in his political favor.

[GranLightning16]

Politics aside, maybe I'm a stooge for believing in the scientific method and research determining how game populations, forestry, invasive species, disease, etc. are handled. This may not be the most expedient way of doing things, but it's also not a knee jerk reaction to one angry guy who some politician happens to walk by at a supper club one evening.

There's other evidence that how Walker handled public input was far from the transparent process that everyone seems to think the golden child produced. The gag order on DNR employees testifying for or against legislation; changing the rules process to the extraneously long drawn duration for getting proposed rules changes, voted on and passed by the public, at the Conservation Congress;

Are there people in the DNR that are preservationists, I'm sure, probably just as many that are good scientists that are working hard every day to make things better & balanced for everyone & every species, which after all, is their goal. Hunters seem to forget that the DNR is not just there to do the bidding of hunters and anglers, even though we're the ones that provide most of the agencies funding.

Maybe instead of fighting each other, we should all be fighting for a .001% sales tax that is dedicated to funding the DNR, so they can be fully staffed and the scope of what they are supposed to do can be completed in a sane amount of time.

It certainly is a social issue also, the weird thing about America is the mentality that we should all be highly paid, but everything that we need to purchase should be extremely cheap. You can get this by exploiting 3rd world countries labor, like we do. It's impossible to import natural resources.

[dan]

Politics aside, maybe I'm a stooge for believing in the scientific method and research determining how game populations, forestry, invasive species, disease, etc. are handled. This may not be the most expedient way of doing things, but it's also not a knee jerk reaction to one angry guy who some politician happens to walk by at a supper club one evening.

There's other evidence that how Walker handled public input was far from the transparent process that everyone seems to think the golden child produced. The gag order on DNR employees testifying for or against legislation; changing the rules process to the extraneously long drawn duration for getting proposed rules changes, voted on and passed by the public, at the Conservation Congress;

Are there people in the DNR that are preservationists, I'm sure, probably just as many that are good scientists that are working hard every day to make things better & balanced for everyone & every species, which after all, is their goal. Hunters seem to forget that the DNR is not just there to do the bidding of hunters and anglers, even though we're the ones that provide most of the agencies funding.

Maybe instead of fighting each other, we should all be fighting for a .001% sales tax that is dedicated to funding the DNR, so they can be fully staffed and the scope of what they are supposed to do can be completed in a sane amount of time.

It certainly is a social issue also, the weird thing about America is the mentality that we should all be highly paid, but everything that we need to purchase should be extremely cheap. You can get this by exploiting 3rd world countries labor, like we do. It's impossible to import natural resources.

I believe in trusting the science too... We agree on that. I wish the heads of the WDNR felt that way and would allow the science to be honest instead of telling the people conducting it what there outcome will be before hand. I also agree that politics should be taken out of the WDNR. We the people should vote for a person to run the WDNR so it can manage wildlife rather than wipe it out...