Cam jam as an adjustable aider?

[Motivated]

https://youtu.be/9EDZvNivgBc

At 4 min 52 seconds he uses a cam jam as an ascender. Does anybody here do this? Is it safe? Practical?

If so, I may have to try it out.

[Jonny]

I have a couple of those. No way would I do this. They work great for lashing gear to a stand though.

Spend the money and buy a ropeman ascender and climbing carabiner. Would do the exact same thing but now you have stuff rated for climbing.

Pretty slick idea though

[Motivated]

I have a couple of those. No way would I do this. They work great for lashing gear to a stand though.

Spend the money and buy a ropeman ascender and climbing carabiner. Would do the exact same thing but now you have stuff rated for climbing.

Pretty slick idea though

Yeah, I thought it kind of was a slick idea too, so I thought I would bring it to everyone's attention. I tend to use the Cranford steps and a nylon aider for setting trail cams up 10-12 feet high. Easier than toting around a stick when doing an all day scouting session through all of the thick and nasty stuff.

I do have ropeman1 ascender that I use on my lineman's belt. I just never considered doing anything similar to SRT (single rope technique) for any hunting application. That is kindof what he is doing.

I always see the cam jams in the store but I've never used one. So I don't know how sturdy they are. I know they are not likely climbing rated. But honestly the sit drag is not either and guys use it as a saddle all of the time. So I thought I would bring this up and see what people thought about it.

[Rob loper]

Got a pic anyone of a camjam?

[Babshaft]

Here’s the thread on saddle hunter where he explains a bit more and some other guys added some more advice:

http://saddlehunter.com/community/index ... anford-ezy®-climb-folding-rope-tree-step.5201/

Here’s a link to the can jam lope:

http://www.niteize.com/product/camjamxt ... htener.asp

[Jonny]

I have a couple of those. No way would I do this. They work great for lashing gear to a stand though.

Spend the money and buy a ropeman ascender and climbing carabiner. Would do the exact same thing but now you have stuff rated for climbing.

Pretty slick idea though

Yeah, I thought it kind of was a slick idea too, so I thought I would bring it to everyone's attention. I tend to use the Cranford steps and a nylon aider for setting trail cams up 10-12 feet high. Easier than toting around a stick when doing an all day scouting session through all of the thick and nasty stuff.

I do have ropeman1 ascender that I use on my lineman's belt. I just never considered doing anything similar to SRT (single rope technique) for any hunting application. That is kindof what he is doing.

I always see the cam jams in the store but I've never used one. So I don't know how sturdy they are. I know they are not likely climbing rated. But honestly the sit drag is not either and guys use it as a saddle all of the time. So I thought I would bring this up and see what people thought about it.

The thing with a sit drag is you are typically wearing it over a rock climbing harness so you have a fail safe. He is using a linemans belt but that won't do much if anything breaks. With a working load of 500lbs and breaking of 1500lbs in theory you will be fine. But like everything in the world, nothing is guaranteed.

The cam jams are sturdy in that the rope won't slip through them. I actually prefer them to bungees for strapping gear down as long as I have some clothing for shock absorbing, but you can get them very tight and solid. Wish they would make a climbing version of it since it just combines a ropeman and biner into one piece construction

[Babshaft]

I'm in agreement with Jonny.

I like them a lot for tying my kayak down, but I'd have a hard time trusting my fat climbing with one. Even though it says 500 lbs and I'm 180, it'd still scare me that I'm pushing it to the limits. They're pretty cheap so it's tempting to just give them a whirl and trust your lanyard in case it goes.

It'd be awesome if they'd make a climbing rated one with a quick release.

[Babshaft]

Something I forgot to add is:

I know Justin (the guy in the video) has used that system for at least a half dozen hunts with no problems (he mentions that in the saddlehunter thread). He saw no visible signs of damage to the cam jam.

[Rob loper]

Here’s the thread on saddle hunter where he explains a bit more and some other guys added some more advice:

http://saddlehunter.com/community/index ... anford-ezy®-climb-folding-rope-tree-step.5201/

Here’s a link to the can jam lope:

http://www.niteize.com/product/camjamxt ... htener.asp

Cool thanks babs

[Onemanwolphpack]

Just curious if anyone has tried these? They look slick.

[bowfreak8]

Looks sweet but makes me nervous lol.