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Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:31 am

I tore apart my stand and sticks and put some bow string wax on each washer and cleaned everything up. I found a bent bolt where the post meets the platform and went to the hardware store to find a replacement. I found a black grade 8 bolt but they only had coarse thread, also I was forced to use a grade 5 nylon nut. Is this okay? Thanks in advance for the help!


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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby Dewey » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:16 am

I would think it’s best to replace with exactly what came from the factory. With R&D testing you would think they use specific hardware for a reason.

This would be a great question for Dan since he deals with this stuff all the time.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby tgreeno » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:24 am

NBK438 wrote:I tore apart my stand and sticks and put some bow string wax on each washer and cleaned everything up. I found a bent bolt where the post meets the platform and went to the hardware store to find a replacement. I found a black grade 8 bolt but they only had coarse thread, also I was forced to use a grade 5 nylon nut. Is this okay? Thanks in advance for the help!


A grade 8 bolt is the highest strength steel bolt their is. It's has 150,000 psi tensile strength. It should be fine.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:34 am

How about with the fine thread that it comes with vs the coarse thread? Will the grade 5 nylon nut be okay as well? I assumed all the pressure would be on the bolt so it would be okay. I couldn't find the bolt kit on the LW site, Dewey. I might just call them up and order the bolts from them and hunt with what I have until then. Has to be better then hunting with the bent original...
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby tgreeno » Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:57 am

NBK438 wrote:How about with the fine thread that it comes with vs the coarse thread? Will the grade 5 nylon nut be okay as well? I assumed all the pressure would be on the bolt so it would be okay. I couldn't find the bolt kit on the LW site, Dewey. I might just call them up and order the bolts from them and hunt with what I have until then. Has to be better then hunting with the bent original...


Fine thread are are stronger, but with a class 8 bolt you should be ok. The nut should be fine. The bolt takes all the load.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:03 am

Awesome, thanks for the help, Fellas!
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby jmaas07 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Where did you find the black oxide bolts? I went to numerous local hardware stores as well as fastenol and a similar fastener place..ended up getting grade 8 but had to paint them.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby MOBIGBUCKS » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:55 pm

I'd contact the manufacturer. If it's Lone Wolf stuff contact the president Jared Schlipf. He's a good dude and will fix you up with what you need.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:06 pm

jmaas07 wrote:Where did you find the black oxide bolts? I went to numerous local hardware stores as well as fastenol and a similar fastener place..ended up getting grade 8 but had to paint them.


I found mine at Ace Hardware
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:06 pm

MOBIGBUCKS wrote:I'd contact the manufacturer. If it's Lone Wolf stuff contact the president Jared Schlipf. He's a good dude and will fix you up with what you need.


Ill shoot him a call tomorrow and just hunt with what I have for right now!
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:15 am

FYI, for anyone wanting to order replacement bolts through Lone Wolf, you must call them direct and they cost $6.99(kit is for both seat to post and post to platform) and come "pre lubed". I asked Jared what he recommends as a lubricant and he said they use "Plumber's grease" instead of bow wax.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby GRFox » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:13 pm

The grade 8 bolt is overkill for the application. the grade 5 nut is fine. There isn't any pressure pushing out into the nut in this application.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby jmaas07 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:39 pm

GRFox wrote:The grade 8 bolt is overkill for the application. the grade 5 nut is fine. There isn't any pressure pushing out into the nut in this application.


Cost difference is nominal, I’d want the stronger bolt regardless. What’s the negative?
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby dan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:16 am

If one bolt bent, I would replace all of them. You might have a Chinese version. The Chinese ones had cheap hardware that in my opinion is dangerous. I like the bow wax cause it seems to last longer. I don't know when they switched to grease, we always used bow wax, as far as I can remember.
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Re: Replacing bolts

Unread postby NBK438 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:22 am

dan wrote:If one bolt bent, I would replace all of them. You might have a Chinese version. The Chinese ones had cheap hardware that in my opinion is dangerous. I like the bow wax cause it seems to last longer. I don't know when they switched to grease, we always used bow wax, as far as I can remember.


This is an American built one. I was shocked when I found the bent bolt. I weigh in at 155lbs so I'm not even coming in at half the rated weight capacity. I applied bow string wax to my sticks when I tore them apart and I thought it turned out good.


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