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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby tgreeno » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:28 am

Stanley wrote:Try this:
Hang a target face so the bull’s-eye is at your shoulder height.

Put a nail at the top,
and hang a weighted string,
so the string splits the bull’s-eye in half.

Now,
start at 9 feet.

Fire a field point arrow.

If the field point arrow misses the string to the left,
then move all the pins to the left. (Adjust the entire sight housing).

If the field point arrow misses to the string to the right,
then move all the pins to the right.

The goal is to nail the string perfectly.
You want your field point arrow to be exactly below the center
of the bull’s-eye.



Now,
go back to 10 yards.

Fire a 3 arrow group.

Find the center of the arrow group.

If the center of the arrow group is to the left of the string,
move the arrow rest to the right.

If the center of the arrow group is to the right of the string,
move the arrow rest to the left.

Goal is to have the hanging string split your arrow group in half.



Now,
go back to 9 feet.

Fire a field point arrow.

If the field point arrow does not exactly nail the hanging string,
then adjust all of your pins to the left or right,
until the arrow is dead center under the exact center of the bull’s-eye.


Now,
go back to 10 yards.

Adjust the arrow rest in tiny amounts,
until the hanging string splits your 3 arrow group in half.


When you are done,
you can fire a field point arrow from 9 feet
and it will be exactly underneath the center of the bull’s-eye.

Your 3 arrow group from 10 yards,
will also be split in half by the hanging string.



Now, your centershot (arrow rest)
and your windage (pins) will be perfect.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby bowkill00 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:46 am

Sometimes bow risers flex at full draw. It's not much but it will cause the same issue your having. My pse bow madness does. I actually have to tork my grip alittle to get it tuned and shoot bullet holes. My site is maxed out on left windage. Any more and I'd have to come up w a plan b. Good luck....
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby bowkill00 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:49 am

tgreeno wrote:
Stanley wrote:Try this:
Hang a target face so the bull’s-eye is at your shoulder height.

Put a nail at the top,
and hang a weighted string,
so the string splits the bull’s-eye in half.

Now,
start at 9 feet.

Fire a field point arrow.

If the field point arrow misses the string to the left,
then move all the pins to the left. (Adjust the entire sight housing).

If the field point arrow misses to the string to the right,
then move all the pins to the right.

The goal is to nail the string perfectly.
You want your field point arrow to be exactly below the center
of the bull’s-eye.



Now,
go back to 10 yards.

Fire a 3 arrow group.

Find the center of the arrow group.

If the center of the arrow group is to the left of the string,
move the arrow rest to the right.

If the center of the arrow group is to the right of the string,
move the arrow rest to the left.

Goal is to have the hanging string split your arrow group in half.



Now,
go back to 9 feet.

Fire a field point arrow.

If the field point arrow does not exactly nail the hanging string,
then adjust all of your pins to the left or right,
until the arrow is dead center under the exact center of the bull’s-eye.


Now,
go back to 10 yards.

Adjust the arrow rest in tiny amounts,
until the hanging string splits your 3 arrow group in half.


When you are done,
you can fire a field point arrow from 9 feet
and it will be exactly underneath the center of the bull’s-eye.

Your 3 arrow group from 10 yards,
will also be split in half by the hanging string.



Now, your centershot (arrow rest)
and your windage (pins) will be perfect.
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Nice Post Stanley! Great Information!

Great post Stanley
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Sean55025 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:47 pm

Thanks for the info and the help.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby matt1336 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:49 pm

I had this problem once upon a time. I fixed it by slightly changing my anchor point and then making sure it stuck with it every shot. It turns out that I wasn't consistently anchoring my string left to right. I'd press too hard against my face one session and not enough the next. My point is that before you start moving your rest and sight around make sure you're consistent with the basics first.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Bowhunting Brian » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:09 am

Could be your grip or draw length is wrong or both.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby JoeRE » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:05 am

Yea it could be a form issue too. I still think cam lean is a major possibility. The thing about cam lean is it can get worse and worse till you have a REAL problem.

It could be one of several things that is why you have a lot of different replies to this.

If you want to fix it you probably need to have a good pro shop watch you shoot and inspect your bow. Note I said GOOD...in my experience pro shop employees are like car mechanics, some are good but some are incompetent. Ask any good archers you know in your area for recommendations.

Or call your bow manufacturer. Some specific models have common issues like that, sometimes they are very helpful troubleshooting. For instance I have had good results calling Bear about stuff with my current bow.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby The Runt » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:27 am

If you are consistently hitting the bull from 20 all the way out to 50. You are probably just torquing the riser. If you are hitting bulls you are torquing it consistently!

There are bows that just torque easy and all the accessories make a difference too.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Cuzzinfish » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:54 pm

After reading all the posts and knowing you had the cams checked, it sounds like the geometry is off. Whether that's you (hand twist, pressure from your face against the string, etc) or the riser (perhaps it isn't square to the limbs and instead twisted clockwise slightly), hitting your spots is what counts. I don't think I'd be bothered by it unless it was causing accuracy issues.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Putt4Doe » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:17 pm

Sounds like a centershot/shim related problem of form is ruled out. Where are you located?

For the record, some cam lean isn't bad. Most bows require some lean in order to tune well. EXCESSIVE cam lean is an issue. If an arrow is laid on the top cam and it's point crosses the string at the d-loop, or goes slightly pst, that's no big deal. Anything past that and it might be getting Too far out.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Sean55025 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:40 pm

Took the bow to fulldraw in Stacy and it turns out the spacers for the bottom cam were backwards. Everything is back and good to go now. Thanks for all the help and in sites everyone.
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby JoeRE » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:19 am

Sean55025 wrote:Took the bow to fulldraw in Stacy and it turns out the spacers for the bottom cam were backwards. Everything is back and good to go now. Thanks for all the help and in sites everyone.



Yea I have heard of that in one other instance. It results in something that looks just like cam lean. Thanks for posting the update Sean we can all learn from it 8-)
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Re: Bow problem

Unread postby Stanley » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:13 am

Sean55025 wrote:Took the bow to fulldraw in Stacy and it turns out the spacers for the bottom cam were backwards. Everything is back and good to go now. Thanks for all the help and in sites everyone.

Sounds good. It's next to impossible for anyone to guess correctly what the issue is with out hands on and seeing the bow. Too many variables.
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