Guys, I've been reading Mapping Trophy bucks. The book talks about inside edges and funnels. It always says to have the wind to your face. I don't get it because my understanding is that bucks will travel on the side of the ridge with wind to their back. If there are ag fields on the sides of these ridges and I only hunt them when the wind is on my face then it will never be on the lee side of the ridge. Can someone explain this to me? My understanding is that it's pointless to hunt hill country with wind on your face because deer will be on the opposite side with the wind to their back.
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'If you only fish with a chartreuse colored bait, you will probably catch fish and recommend to others to use a chartreuse colored bait as well' - Stanley
Moral of the story, there are lots of ways to kill bucks, especially during the rut. So if you put the wind in your face, you will likely kill bucks doing that. Especially rut hunting saddles and funnels.
Also, bucks moving with wind to back or wind to face seems to be very regional.
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Moral of the story, there are lots of ways to kill bucks, especially during the rut. So if you put the wind in your face, you will likely kill bucks doing that. Especially rut hunting saddles and funnels.
Also, bucks moving with wind to back or wind to face seems to be very regional.
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PK_ wrote:'If you only fish with a chartreuse colored bait, you will probably catch fish and recommend to others to use a chartreuse colored bait as well' - Stanley
Moral of the story, there are lots of ways to kill bucks, especially during the rut. So if you put the wind in your face, you will likely kill bucks doing that. Especially rut hunting saddles and funnels.
Also, bucks moving with wind to back or wind to face seems to be very regional.
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Great post.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Can you elaborate more? Im just as confused
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Re: Lee side approach confusion
Guys, I've been reading Mapping Trophy bucks. The book talks about inside edges and funnels. It always says to have the wind to your face. I don't get it because my understanding is that bucks will travel on the side of the ridge with wind to their back
I have not read the book... However, if he is talking about rut and hunting funnels, and your talking about hill country. The most common travel is not "wind to back" its cross wind as they walk along the leeward side at the thermal tunnel elevation.
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So you're saying that they kind of walk at an angle so that they catch the scent as they scent check it.
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I have read the book and he does talk a bout hunting leeward sides in one section(though he doesn't refer to them by that name).
He says he will walk with the wind at his back from the top of a hillside and setup just below the crest because the wind will cause a vacuum pulling air up the hillside into his face. That is exactly what we talk about here with the thermal or wind tunnel, top 3rd, etc.
what I was saying in my other post is if he hunts a certain way (walking into the wind, setting up for bucks traveling with a tailwind) he will probably have some success doing that. Another hunter may access with a crosswind or tailwind if that is what it takes to avoid 'deery' areas and then setup where the thermals or terrain funnels the wind in his favor. He too will find success. So there is no one right or wrong way.
For instance. Let's say there are two long leeward hillsides that do not connect. Herndon walks with the wind in his face to a saddle that is between both leeward hills. Dan is hunting adjacent to a few leeward bedding points. Bighunt walks with the wind at his back across an open top and then sits t the head of a deep ravine. Bucky walks in crosswind along a creek bottom then cuts up into a nasty cut and climbs up to a converging hub. Autumn ninja sets up on a windward hillside but he can shoot across to the leeward ridge where there is a thermal hub.
Each hunter shoots a mature buck in a weeks span. All with different strategies. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Find out what works for you in your area and the way you like to hunt. Use your head and you will find success. That is all I was trying to say.
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He says he will walk with the wind at his back from the top of a hillside and setup just below the crest because the wind will cause a vacuum pulling air up the hillside into his face. That is exactly what we talk about here with the thermal or wind tunnel, top 3rd, etc.
what I was saying in my other post is if he hunts a certain way (walking into the wind, setting up for bucks traveling with a tailwind) he will probably have some success doing that. Another hunter may access with a crosswind or tailwind if that is what it takes to avoid 'deery' areas and then setup where the thermals or terrain funnels the wind in his favor. He too will find success. So there is no one right or wrong way.
For instance. Let's say there are two long leeward hillsides that do not connect. Herndon walks with the wind in his face to a saddle that is between both leeward hills. Dan is hunting adjacent to a few leeward bedding points. Bighunt walks with the wind at his back across an open top and then sits t the head of a deep ravine. Bucky walks in crosswind along a creek bottom then cuts up into a nasty cut and climbs up to a converging hub. Autumn ninja sets up on a windward hillside but he can shoot across to the leeward ridge where there is a thermal hub.
Each hunter shoots a mature buck in a weeks span. All with different strategies. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Find out what works for you in your area and the way you like to hunt. Use your head and you will find success. That is all I was trying to say.
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I just finished the book for the first time about a month ago and I was also confused with some of his tactics when it came to playing the wind. Some of the scenarios seemed backwards from what is talked about here.
I thought it was a good book and will read it again, but I'm playing the wind as the Beast's do.
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PK_ wrote:I have read the book and he does talk a bout hunting leeward sides in one section(though he doesn't refer to them by that name).
He says he will walk with the wind at his back from the top of a hillside and setup just below the crest because the wind will cause a vacuum pulling air up the hillside into his face. That is exactly what we talk about here with the thermal or wind tunnel, top 3rd, etc.
what I was saying in my other post is if he hunts a certain way (walking into the wind, setting up for bucks traveling with a tailwind) he will probably have some success doing that. Another hunter may access with a crosswind or tailwind if that is what it takes to avoid 'deery' areas and then setup where the thermals or terrain funnels the wind in his favor. He too will find success. So there is no one right or wrong way.
For instance. Let's say there are two long leeward hillsides that do not connect. Herndon walks with the wind in his face to a saddle that is between both leeward hills. Dan is hunting adjacent to a few leeward bedding points. Bighunt walks with the wind at his back across an open top and then sits t the head of a deep ravine. Bucky walks in crosswind along a creek bottom then cuts up into a nasty cut and climbs up to a converging hub. Autumn ninja sets up on a windward hillside but he can shoot across to the leeward ridge where there is a thermal hub.
Each hunter shoots a mature buck in a weeks span. All with different strategies. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Find out what works for you in your area and the way you like to hunt. Use your head and you will find success. That is all I was trying to say.
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Re: Lee side approach confusion
I have read the book, but a long time ago. I think all the author was saying was be sure to have your scent blowing towards the field [the "v" of the inside corner]. I never got the picture that he was describing the deer will move in with a cross wind, wind at back, wind in face; he was describing a landscape feature that funnels deer.
I killed a 156" Nov 3, 2014. The buck was walking past an inside corner on the windy (non-lee) side of the hill. Think out farther than your stand site because it all depends why bucks are passing through the funnel. In my case the buck was checking exit trails from a standing corn field and moving past the funnel to invade a doe bedding area.
I killed a 156" Nov 3, 2014. The buck was walking past an inside corner on the windy (non-lee) side of the hill. Think out farther than your stand site because it all depends why bucks are passing through the funnel. In my case the buck was checking exit trails from a standing corn field and moving past the funnel to invade a doe bedding area.
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PK_ wrote:I have read the book and he does talk a bout hunting leeward sides in one section(though he doesn't refer to them by that name).
He says he will walk with the wind at his back from the top of a hillside and setup just below the crest because the wind will cause a vacuum pulling air up the hillside into his face. That is exactly what we talk about here with the thermal or wind tunnel, top 3rd, etc.
what I was saying in my other post is if he hunts a certain way (walking into the wind, setting up for bucks traveling with a tailwind) he will probably have some success doing that. Another hunter may access with a crosswind or tailwind if that is what it takes to avoid 'deery' areas and then setup where the thermals or terrain funnels the wind in his favor. He too will find success. So there is no one right or wrong way.
For instance. Let's say there are two long leeward hillsides that do not connect. Herndon walks with the wind in his face to a saddle that is between both leeward hills. Dan is hunting adjacent to a few leeward bedding points. Bighunt walks with the wind at his back across an open top and then sits t the head of a deep ravine. [glow=red]Bucky walks in crosswind along a creek bottom then cuts up into a nasty cut and climbs up to a converging hub[/glow]. Autumn ninja sets up on a windward hillside but he can shoot across to the leeward ridge where there is a thermal hub.
Each hunter shoots a mature buck in a weeks span. All with different strategies. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Find out what works for you in your area and the way you like to hunt. Use your head and you will find success. That is all I was trying to say.
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