mainebowhunter wrote: Definitely made some slow KS hunting in 2012. 2015 really has recovered where we are seeing the older age class deer again.
2012 was probably 5-times better than NH!
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mainebowhunter wrote: Definitely made some slow KS hunting in 2012. 2015 really has recovered where we are seeing the older age class deer again.
mainebowhunter wrote:Bigb wrote:Central Illinois was very light. Heck, the most snow we had was during shotgun season in November. Only a few days where the weather got really cold and we have some pretty good cedar cover and south facing slopes that help. With EHD for two years straight a couple years ago, right now I'm not worried as much about antler size as I am fawn crops. A couple good fawning years will really help. Seems like antlers always grow well no matter what as long as they are eating good April to August.
One of my favorite shows is "Bowhunt or Die" on the Roku box. You can see the struggle they had couple years back ...basically EHD hurt there deer population big time. Show is filmed a lot in Illinois. Couple of the guys on there had dead head after dead head of beauty bucks that died. Real shame for sure. Definitely made some slow KS hunting in 2012. 2015 really has recovered where we are seeing the older age class deer again.
Bigb wrote:mainebowhunter wrote:Bigb wrote:Central Illinois was very light. Heck, the most snow we had was during shotgun season in November. Only a few days where the weather got really cold and we have some pretty good cedar cover and south facing slopes that help. With EHD for two years straight a couple years ago, right now I'm not worried as much about antler size as I am fawn crops. A couple good fawning years will really help. Seems like antlers always grow well no matter what as long as they are eating good April to August.
One of my favorite shows is "Bowhunt or Die" on the Roku box. You can see the struggle they had couple years back ...basically EHD hurt there deer population big time. Show is filmed a lot in Illinois. Couple of the guys on there had dead head after dead head of beauty bucks that died. Real shame for sure. Definitely made some slow KS hunting in 2012. 2015 really has recovered where we are seeing the older age class deer again.
One of my favorite shows as well! I watch it when I'm on the treadmill at the Gym. I know of three spots in Illinois where they hunt, one is outside Chicago by about an hour, One in Northwest Illinois (Jo Daviess County) but I think they lost that one. It was something like 1000 acre lease but they killed some BIG deer off there. There is one by where i hunt is Central Illinois in the same county and they got hit pretty hard by EHD. We were pretty lucky (knock on wood) and we didnt find any deer or see any evidence of it. I think, and I emphasize think, is because we have two springs on our property that supply creeks that run through the entire property. These creeks are all gravel as well so I hope the midges can't come out of them. These creeks never went dry throughout both droughts and they run about 3/4 of a mile through the property I hunt.
[glow=red]One thing I learned is EHD can wipe out a deer herd in one spot and 5 miles away it won't effect it at all.[/glow] We've had good doe numbers the last few years and i've held off shooting them hoping they would migrate to other areas. Now, we are getting pretty high doe numbers and it might be time to take a couple out. My non-hunting friends are now obsessed with deer sticks so one of these does might just be made exclusively for that!
headgear wrote:Same here in Northern MN, a much needed mild winter. I'm further north than any of the Maine or UP guys so it's been about 8 years of low deer numbers and any signs of recovery have been met with harsh winters and deep snow during that time. Hope this winter was the one to give the population a kick start, still need one or two more winters like this so they can really bounce back.
Hawthorne wrote:Seen a bunch of deer over the weekend. One mature buck. Looked like he had 2 velvet pop cans on top of his head. Big bodied. Lots of deer tracks everywhere. The deer look very healthy in southern mi.
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JoeRE wrote:Maine, reading those numbers reminds me I am incredibly lucky to live in the Midwest. 20,000 deer taken in the whole state. Holly buckets.
Around here....man am I optimistic about antler growth and fawn survival with the early spring we have had....baring a major drought or something like that (is getting a little dry) 2016 is going to be a year of giants. I just have to find them because many of the ones I was after I found dead
mainebowhunter wrote:
Winter kill dead? Or hunting season kill dead?
JoeRE wrote:mainebowhunter wrote:
Winter kill dead? Or hunting season kill dead?
I couldn't tell for sure on most, but time of death suspiciously lined up with early to mid December, meaning Iowa's gun seasons. That is typical, deer drives are a great way to loose a lot of deer if hunters don't know what they are doing, or just don't care. One clearly died earlier in the fall as the bones were pretty much free of tissue, another I did find what looked like a slug hole in the hide around the stomach. Given the mild winter decomposition was a little faster that usual but a poorly placed shotgun slug combined with a lazy hunter unwilling to follow the trail is the culprit many times.
I am up to 12 total dead bucks...half of them 2 year olds or older. That is more than twice as many as usual, and I am covering about the same amount of ground as average.
I also found a total of 3 broadhead tipped arrows and 1 crossbow bolt all of them fired into animals as there was traces of hair or tissue on them still and they were all bent or broken...weird because before that in my entire life I only ever found one arrow in the woods. Strange spring.
mainebowhunter wrote:JoeRE wrote:mainebowhunter wrote:
Winter kill dead? Or hunting season kill dead?
I couldn't tell for sure on most, but time of death suspiciously lined up with early to mid December, meaning Iowa's gun seasons. That is typical, deer drives are a great way to loose a lot of deer if hunters don't know what they are doing, or just don't care. One clearly died earlier in the fall as the bones were pretty much free of tissue, another I did find what looked like a slug hole in the hide around the stomach. Given the mild winter decomposition was a little faster that usual but a poorly placed shotgun slug combined with a lazy hunter unwilling to follow the trail is the culprit many times.
I am up to 12 total dead bucks...half of them 2 year olds or older. That is more than twice as many as usual, and I am covering about the same amount of ground as average.
I also found a total of 3 broadhead tipped arrows and 1 crossbow bolt all of them fired into animals as there was traces of hair or tissue on them still and they were all bent or broken...weird because before that in my entire life I only ever found one arrow in the woods. Strange spring.
That is a strange spring. Coyotes make fast work of the deer around here. Only thing usually left is hair. Found a 2yr old in February. Nothing is left but couple bones and hair.
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