I think there may have been a thread last year about this but I was having trouble tracking it down.
I have the older model XOP sticks and the bolt head is pushing into the steps, in a couple of cases causing the step to move past parallel with the ground. Made it through this season, but I want to try and get this addressed. Thought I would start here, see if anyone had similar issues, again, thought I say a fix for this on here relater to a bigger bolt head?
Best to just contact XOP? I believe the weight limit is 350 pounds on them, so should be well clear of that even at 255 plus gear.
Honestly, I've been kind of disappointed with the sticks, the factory washers are garbage, everything needs fairly regular tightening and mine don't nest well at all. Love to be in the market for a set of Dan's this year, but the wife is taking some time off from work, so not sure that's in the cards, like to get a couple of more years out of these.
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Re: XOP Stick Issue
I've been emailing back and forth with Cody regarding a few things. This being one of them.
Besides flipping the steps, which I'm sure you already know about, my plan is to just use a little jb weld on the step where the indentation is. I'm waiting to hear back from Cody on if this will work or not (if he's allowed to say).
My lone wolf sticks have the steps worn out and it's time to flip the steps. Before I flip, I'll try the JB weld (unless someone knows why that would be a bad reason). I'll report back on that if you feel its a viable option for you.
The other option I can see is getting a longer grade 8 cap screw and modifying it to be like the new version of the XOP stick, which addresses this issue. They use a stop now if you haven't seen it yet. Not just the head of the bolt.
Hope this helps. -Matt
By the way, what are "Dans sticks"? I'm assuming Mr. Infalt has his own climbing stick? I thought he used lonewolf xop stuff? Even seen him use muddy sticks in a video I think....doing deer drives.
Besides flipping the steps, which I'm sure you already know about, my plan is to just use a little jb weld on the step where the indentation is. I'm waiting to hear back from Cody on if this will work or not (if he's allowed to say).
My lone wolf sticks have the steps worn out and it's time to flip the steps. Before I flip, I'll try the JB weld (unless someone knows why that would be a bad reason). I'll report back on that if you feel its a viable option for you.
The other option I can see is getting a longer grade 8 cap screw and modifying it to be like the new version of the XOP stick, which addresses this issue. They use a stop now if you haven't seen it yet. Not just the head of the bolt.
Hope this helps. -Matt
By the way, what are "Dans sticks"? I'm assuming Mr. Infalt has his own climbing stick? I thought he used lonewolf xop stuff? Even seen him use muddy sticks in a video I think....doing deer drives.
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Matty wrote:I've been emailing back and forth with Cody regarding a few things. This being one of them.
Besides flipping the steps, which I'm sure you already know about, my plan is to just use a little jb weld on the step where the indentation is. I'm waiting to hear back from Cody on if this will work or not (if he's allowed to say).
My lone wolf sticks have the steps worn out and it's time to flip the steps. Before I flip, I'll try the JB weld (unless someone knows why that would be a bad reason). I'll report back on that if you feel its a viable option for you.
The other option I can see is getting a longer grade 8 cap screw and modifying it to be like the new version of the XOP stick, which addresses this issue. They use a stop now if you haven't seen it yet. Not just the head of the bolt.
Hope this helps. -Matt
By the way, what are "Dans sticks"? I'm assuming Mr. Infalt has his own climbing stick? I thought he used lonewolf xop stuff? Even seen him use muddy sticks in a video I think....doing deer drives.
Dan's sticks look very similar to the muddy ones.
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Thanks BassBoyLP.
That must have been what I saw him using in the video then. I tried checking the store link before I bothered to ask, but there were currently no products under climbing sticks.
Thanks again.
That must have been what I saw him using in the video then. I tried checking the store link before I bothered to ask, but there were currently no products under climbing sticks.
Thanks again.
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link/pics of Dan's sticks?
I too have the older XOP's and am not impressed either, would be interested in buying a set of Dan's. I would rather support a small business run by a respectable hunter than a Chinaman's climbing stick...
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Twenty Up wrote:link/pics of Dan's sticks?
I too have the older XOP's and am not impressed either, would be interested in buying a set of Dan's. I would rather support a small business run by a respectable hunter than a Chinaman's climbing stick...
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Just flip the step and put a bigger bolt in. Will have to drill out a bit. Used mine all year this year like that. Show no wear they are more solid and the step has a slight upward angle that helps with footing.
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Your having the same problem with your xop sticks, cause they are likely made by the same company in china that made the crappy lw sticks. The problem is inconsistent spacing/placement between the bolt that holds the step and the one that stops rotation. When this spacing is off, you point load the corner of the step, deforming it. Steps angled down can be very dangerous. Here is how I fixed mine.
http://www.thehuntingbeast.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=16142&hilit=+bolt
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Disappointing to read that the XOP sticks are having similar issues with the foot pegs. Not that surprising since they're longer, that'd put a little more torque on the pressure point... then again maybe not. Seems that amount of wear should hapoen, just not after a few months. I want to unload my LW sticks and go to xop but not if this issue persists
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muddy wrote:Disappointing to read that the XOP sticks are having similar issues with the foot pegs. Not that surprising since they're longer, that'd put a little more torque on the pressure point... then again maybe not. Seems that amount of wear should hapoen, just not after a few months. I want to unload my LW sticks and go to xop but not if this issue persists
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Muddy for what it's worth, these are the older XOP sticks. Not sure if the new ones have been fixed. I got these fairly cheap not too long before the newer version came out. Gotten a couple of PM's and it sounds like Cody has been pretty responsive to addressing the issue. Going to e-mail them and see what happens, if not I'll get on a mod for next season. Kenn, that was the thread I was looking for, thanks.
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Thanks. It really doesn't surprise me that they wear that point of contact, there's a lot of pressure right there. If the Muddy sticks were as long as the LW sticks I'd be all over them.
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