How I climb up to 22' with only 3 sticks.
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Great info.
I think I will build one of these ladders for my bottom stick and utilize my four sticks to get 25 plus foot in the air if necessary. Not all of the time but if I need to get higher.
Much easier than adding a 5th stick!
I think I will build one of these ladders for my bottom stick and utilize my four sticks to get 25 plus foot in the air if necessary. Not all of the time but if I need to get higher.
Much easier than adding a 5th stick!
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cbigbear wrote:mag1 wrote:I've got a ? on using the aiders. I made some using B15's video, I made them 3 steps. When trying to use them, they swung away from the tree and it was hard to try and climb. Are there any tricks to using them, do you need to have your weight centered any particular way? I was almost thinking I might be able to use them by attaching a single strap on step (cranford ezystep rope) hooking the bottom loop on the aider around it, so it would stay put, then go from there. You seem to be able to climb pretty easy. must be something wrong with my setup. Just switched to a RC harness, haven't tried it yet.
The key to using straps or aider is to keep your foot against the tree. Let the strap ride right in the arch of your foot & make sure your whole foot toe to heel is in contact with the tree.
Yes. If your foot is in contact with the tree, it will usually be stable. The loop (or sling) is centered with the middle of your foot in line with the middle of the stick. It's easier to use than the aider in my opinion. Once you get the balance figured out with the aider, it's relatively easy to use as well though. My foot is kept pretty much straight in the sling, but angled with the heel towards the center line in the aider, with the tree in contact with my foot. The longer the aider, the more challenging it is to use. I can see value in the longer aider (up to 4 steps) at ground level, but after the first stick, I'd keep it at one or two. You can only reach so high when installing the next stick anyways. If you look at my pictures, the 1st interval (to the top of the 1st stick) is only slightly greater than the next two. I think most men will max out out between 7 and 8' between stick tops. That leaves you with 2 or three steps to divide a distance of 4.5' to 5.5'. 5.5' divides in 2 x33" or 3x22". That requires no more than a 2 step aider with a 22" step between the top of the stick and the 1st step of the aider.
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MOBIGBUCKS wrote:Great info.
I think I will build one of these ladders for my bottom stick and utilize my four sticks to get 25 plus foot in the air if necessary. Not all of the time but if I need to get higher.
Much easier than adding a 5th stick!
That's the beauty of the sling. You can add it or not. Either way you're only carrying 2 ounces per sling. It's very adaptable.
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Awesome! Def. gonna bookmark this to come back to. This coming season will be my first year with sticks and mobile stand.
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Dhurtubise wrote:cbigbear wrote:mag1 wrote:I've got a ? on using the aiders. I made some using B15's video, I made them 3 steps. When trying to use them, they swung away from the tree and it was hard to try and climb. Are there any tricks to using them, do you need to have your weight centered any particular way? I was almost thinking I might be able to use them by attaching a single strap on step (cranford ezystep rope) hooking the bottom loop on the aider around it, so it would stay put, then go from there. You seem to be able to climb pretty easy. must be something wrong with my setup. Just switched to a RC harness, haven't tried it yet.
The key to using straps or aider is to keep your foot against the tree. Let the strap ride right in the arch of your foot & make sure your whole foot toe to heel is in contact with the tree.
Yes. If your foot is in contact with the tree, it will usually be stable. The loop (or sling) is centered with the middle of your foot in line with the middle of the stick. It's easier to use than the aider in my opinion. Once you get the balance figured out with the aider, it's relatively easy to use as well though. My foot is kept pretty much straight in the sling, but angled with the heel towards the center line in the aider, with the tree in contact with my foot. The longer the aider, the more challenging it is to use. I can see value in the longer aider (up to 4 steps) at ground level, but after the first stick, I'd keep it at one or two. You can only reach so high when installing the next stick anyways. If you look at my pictures, the 1st interval (to the top of the 1st stick) is only slightly greater than the next two. I think most men will max out out between 7 and 8' between stick tops. That leaves you with 2 or three steps to divide a distance of 4.5' to 5.5'. 5.5' divides in 2 x33" or 3x22". That requires no more than a 2 step aider with a 22" step between the top of the stick and the 1st step of the aider.
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Yep. And with really small trees you can use the small diameter to your advantage by applying pressure to the tree with the inside of your knees.
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The thing I'm loozing at is a rope that can swing around with 0 side support. And in the dark hoping your foot goes in a loop you can not see only feel. For four pounds I'm gonna be on metal man.strapped rigidly to s tree. I carry it all in each and every time. Not a big deal. Not for me. But that's just me.
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Thanks for the tips my question I have not before used a aider is ?? Do they blow around the tree when it's windy that a buck might see? If they do how do you personally prevent it from blowing?
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Tennhunter3 wrote:Thanks for the tips my question I have not before used a aider is ?? Do they blow around the tree when it's windy that a buck might see? If they do how do you personally prevent it from blowing?
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Yes they do blow in the wind. Easy fix keep your foot hooked into a loop when u climb & then hook the aider loop onto your top stick step.
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cbigbear wrote:Tennhunter3 wrote:Thanks for the tips my question I have not before used a aider is ?? Do they blow around the tree when it's windy that a buck might see? If they do how do you personally prevent it from blowing?
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Yes they do blow in the wind. Easy fix keep your foot hooked into a loop when u climb & then hook the aider loop onto your top stick step.
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The other consideration is that when it's windy enough that the slings are moving there is already lots of movement in the woods. I don't think it makes a difference because in my opinion they don't move very much at all and even when they do, it's less than proportional to other movement in the woods. It's no different than the length of strap left on your climbing sticks after they're cinched to a tree.
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UPbowhunter wrote:The thing I'm loozing at is a rope that can swing around with 0 side support. And in the dark hoping your foot goes in a loop you can not see only feel. For four pounds I'm gonna be on metal man.strapped rigidly to s tree. I carry it all in each and every time. Not a big deal. Not for me. But that's just me.
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I do a visual check to ensure that the ball of my foot is centered in the loop... EVERY TIME. Not worth going by feel and having an accident.
Tennhunter3 wrote:Thanks for the tips my question I have not before used a aider is ?? Do they blow around the tree when it's windy that a buck might see? If they do how do you personally prevent it from blowing?
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I've never really had a problem with them blowing around. Granted, the rope I tie on the bottom of each loop adds just enough weight to keep it from waving around much.
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Great information! I will definately be experimenting with some of these ideas.
I also agree that cbigbear's one stick climbing method should at least be tried by any big woods hunter. It has been a game changer for me.
I also agree that cbigbear's one stick climbing method should at least be tried by any big woods hunter. It has been a game changer for me.
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Good Information, Thx for sharing guys
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The only question I have about all these rope and loop threads is.... is all this worth the 1.5lbs of weight? I carry 4 sticks and stretch a 25' pull rope at stand height. I just don't see any advantage of trying to get my foot into a loop after dark with adrenaline flowing back in a marsh I paddled back into. For me this is not worth it. But that's my opinion.
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UPbowhunter wrote:The only question I have about all these rope and loop threads is.... is all this worth the 1.5lbs of weight? I carry 4 sticks and stretch a 25' pull rope at stand height. I just don't see any advantage of trying to get my foot into a loop after dark with adrenaline flowing back in a marsh I paddled back into. For me this is not worth it. But that's my opinion.
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I can only speak for myself, but if I can reach 25' with one stick vs 4 the savings of 7.5lbs is well worth it. I only run one strap off my stick & never use it climbing down. Going up it's fairly easy to get my foot in.
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UPbowhunter wrote:The only question I have about all these rope and loop threads is.... is all this worth the 1.5lbs of weight? I carry 4 sticks and stretch a 25' pull rope at stand height. I just don't see any advantage of trying to get my foot into a loop after dark with adrenaline flowing back in a marsh I paddled back into. For me this is not worth it. But that's my opinion.
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Hi UP. The aider and slings weigh less than one pound combined, pretty sure. I think your head might be at roughly 25' with 4 sticks, which would put your feet at 19-21'. It only takes me 3 mini sticks to get to those heights. i don't think it's possible to be taking the 43" steps between sticks, belly hieght, that are required to get the top of your stick at 25'. You would literally have to be climbing between sticks to achieve that.
Getting your foot in the sling is surprisingly easy, but you would have to try it for yourself. It's because the stick keeps it away from the tree.
I'd say the bulk and weight savings are worth it. I think the only reason you are questioning it is because you canoe into your hunting areas, which saves you most of the heavy lifting.
You posted pretty much the same question on the 1st page of this thread; were you not satisfied with the answer?
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