Kayak or Canoe
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What about one of these?http://m.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Sun-Dolphin-Sportsman-Fishing-Boat&i=427717&r=view&cvsfa=2586&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=343237373137
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Old Towne Guide 119 is perfect. It fits in my 6' bed with the tailgate down. One strap - done right - holds it secure. 43lbs. Holds stand and sticks and pack and one large doe or two smaller ones. And me. Don't know for sure about buck yet but I'm certain it will.
The Dicks Sporting Goods version is the Guide 119. It's camo - and molded in,not painted.
If you go that route,I did a couple mods that increase load capacity. That canoe was made for solo paddling and is configured as such. Moving the seat back (and up) a few inches makes a huge difference in cap. and little difference in performance. Besides,there'll always be more weight in front = either stand or deer - so moving the seat back is a plus.
I added a small extra thwart because I also replaced and moved the original.
The Dicks Sporting Goods version is the Guide 119. It's camo - and molded in,not painted.
If you go that route,I did a couple mods that increase load capacity. That canoe was made for solo paddling and is configured as such. Moving the seat back (and up) a few inches makes a huge difference in cap. and little difference in performance. Besides,there'll always be more weight in front = either stand or deer - so moving the seat back is a plus.
I added a small extra thwart because I also replaced and moved the original.
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I'd like to see some of the mods you did if possible seeds.
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Peeps22 wrote:I'd like to see some of the mods you did if possible seeds.
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I've been unable to post pics on this site....any help?...and i'll take/post a few.
I bought a webbing seat to replace the stock molded one and moved it back about 10". I mounted it higher for two reasons - the molded seats sat far too low for what I'm used to (I felt like I was sitting on the floor. It's tough to get a good "grab" with the paddle),and there was no room under the seat for my stand/sticks. I raised it to about 4" under the gunnels. My gear will fit underneath when I have a deer in the front of the canoe,otherwise it sits in front.
I found a "scratch and dent" seat (never found the flaw) at Eds Canoes (http://www.edscanoe.com/canoeseats.html) as well as the extra thwart. I moved the center thwart back far enough for "stuff" to fit in front. I measured what would be a comfortable distance in front of the seat - a few inches in front of my knees. The extra "thwart" is all the way forward. It serves as a little more stability for the sides. it's probably unnecessary.
Scratch and dent thwarts were available at Eds canoes too. Ash is the way to go as it's a very stable wood - doesn't absorb water as much,not prone to swelling or cracking.
If you think you're going to want an Old Towne Guide 119 (11'9") start looking now. They sell out at Dicks about as fast as they get them in. Call several different Dicks stores and be persistent. The canoe sells itself and they can't get enough. I got mine from a store in N MN,they sent it - at their convenience - to a store in IN,then to a store near me. The extra shipping was no charge as long as I was willing to wait 6 weeks or so.
OH,that 11'9" not only fits in my 6' truck bed,it's far more maneuverable in skinny water - ditches,creeks,etc - than my 15' canoe. The 3 layer poly is far quieter than the fiberglass and it's far tougher.
It's also a dam nice canoe for just paddling.
I'd kind of kept quiet about the canoe during the season as I just have the canoe in my truck from opening day 'til gun season opener. I may not use it for every hunt but I want the option of water access right up to the moment I decide where I'll hunt. It iDs my truck.......I WILL delete this long before next season.
I bought a webbing seat to replace the stock molded one and moved it back about 10". I mounted it higher for two reasons - the molded seats sat far too low for what I'm used to (I felt like I was sitting on the floor. It's tough to get a good "grab" with the paddle),and there was no room under the seat for my stand/sticks. I raised it to about 4" under the gunnels. My gear will fit underneath when I have a deer in the front of the canoe,otherwise it sits in front.
I found a "scratch and dent" seat (never found the flaw) at Eds Canoes (http://www.edscanoe.com/canoeseats.html) as well as the extra thwart. I moved the center thwart back far enough for "stuff" to fit in front. I measured what would be a comfortable distance in front of the seat - a few inches in front of my knees. The extra "thwart" is all the way forward. It serves as a little more stability for the sides. it's probably unnecessary.
Scratch and dent thwarts were available at Eds canoes too. Ash is the way to go as it's a very stable wood - doesn't absorb water as much,not prone to swelling or cracking.
If you think you're going to want an Old Towne Guide 119 (11'9") start looking now. They sell out at Dicks about as fast as they get them in. Call several different Dicks stores and be persistent. The canoe sells itself and they can't get enough. I got mine from a store in N MN,they sent it - at their convenience - to a store in IN,then to a store near me. The extra shipping was no charge as long as I was willing to wait 6 weeks or so.
OH,that 11'9" not only fits in my 6' truck bed,it's far more maneuverable in skinny water - ditches,creeks,etc - than my 15' canoe. The 3 layer poly is far quieter than the fiberglass and it's far tougher.
It's also a dam nice canoe for just paddling.
I'd kind of kept quiet about the canoe during the season as I just have the canoe in my truck from opening day 'til gun season opener. I may not use it for every hunt but I want the option of water access right up to the moment I decide where I'll hunt. It iDs my truck.......I WILL delete this long before next season.
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BEFORE YOU BUY A SHORT CANOE... make sure you try one out. There are short canoes that are made for solo paddling that tend to be a bit narrower. There are also the short, really wide recreational ones. I remember taking my friend's short canoe several hundred yards across a lake to retrieve a wounded goose. It was one of the most miserable paddles of my life. Literally, I was doing 1 to 2 paddles on the left, then one to 1 to 2 on the right. I spend just as much time switching sides as I did paddling. J-stroking didn't really work either since it was so wide. I might as well have been paddling a raft. If you're on a tiny, winding backwater creek that might be okay. But straight lines will be frustrating.
My recommendation is either a nicer solo canoe made for paddling (and one that meets the weight requirements of you + deer + gear) or the kayak/inflatable raft combo. I did that this year for a couple hunts and it worked nicely. It was cheap, too. You can find plastic recreational kayaks for under $200 new + inflatable raft ($10-20) and large two handed pump ($20). Nice solo canoes that track better will be more costly. That being said, if I were to go in really cold weather, I'd prefer the canoe route.
My recommendation is either a nicer solo canoe made for paddling (and one that meets the weight requirements of you + deer + gear) or the kayak/inflatable raft combo. I did that this year for a couple hunts and it worked nicely. It was cheap, too. You can find plastic recreational kayaks for under $200 new + inflatable raft ($10-20) and large two handed pump ($20). Nice solo canoes that track better will be more costly. That being said, if I were to go in really cold weather, I'd prefer the canoe route.
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I bought this. The final attack by Beavertail. Made in MN. Put a 34 lb thrust trolling motor on it. I just got it from Santa so I can't give it a review. I think it's gonna be just what I need.
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Has anyone had any trouble getting in/out of there kayaks when using them for hunting like this? Also does anybody recommend a sit on top or a sit in kayak? Id assume that the sit on top ones are easier to get in and out of but then you might get a little more wet with a sit on top instead of a sit in. Just curious to see what is a better choice.
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Is it more common to use a canoe with a paddle or a trolling motor? It seems like some of the larger rivers would be tough to navigate with a paddle if it has a current to it.
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^^^^It's more common to use a paddle. But if you can find a flat back canoe and have access to a trolling motor and battery, you should look into giving it a try.
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NCmedic wrote:Is it more common to use a canoe with a paddle or a trolling motor? It seems like some of the larger rivers would be tough to navigate with a paddle if it has a current to it.
All depends on the speed of the current, I usually have an easier time in some larger rivers because of the slower moving water. Hit a few smaller rivers where a 5 minute paddle downstream means an hour paddle home but at least you're getting a good work out. A big wind on a lake can be just as bad, one time I basically pushed my way around the edge of the lake because there was no paddling into the wind.
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SB, if you don't mind me asking, what's the going rate for one of those types of canoes. Looks like the cats meow.
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Brad wrote:SB, if you don't mind me asking, what's the going rate for one of those types of canoes. Looks like the cats meow.
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I looked on the website and they were all over $1000.
Are there any cheaper model canoes that people would recommend, or have used with success?
A lot of game lands around NC are near rivers so having one could give me an advantage.
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I got my canoe for $200 on CL. They go for over a grand new.
I would think its a good time to buy right now.
I would think its a good time to buy right now.
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Another option to consider is Golden Hawk. From what I have read, square stern canoes are difficult to paddle but these are made with the stern out of the water. I seen a couple on Craig's List before. They have a 12'9" model that weighs 65 pounds and a 10 foot that is 50 pounds. Cranberry creek makes something similar I think.
http://www.goldenhawkcanoes.com/12_9__Square_Stern.html
http://www.goldenhawkcanoes.com/12_9__Square_Stern.html
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