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Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby Singing Bridge » Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:15 am

Many of us have heard of Charles J Alsheimer, from D & DH or his rut predictions...

Earlier this month he came out with an article titled, "Understanding Bedding Behavior." Much of Charles photography is from large, private estates that may consist of thousands of acres. These deer are typically not hunted, but their bedding instincts / bedding locations are worthy of note as they compare favorably to what many of us have observed. For example, just like Dan has mentioned countless times, mature bucks tend to bed with the wind at their back, while using their vision to protect themselves from downwind in some bedding scenarios...

So, I thought it would be interesting to discuss the article... see what we agree / disagree with to once again enhance our understanding of where bucks spend the majority of their daylight hours. The pictures alone are worthy of look-

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Re: Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby basspro05 » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:21 am

Thanks for posting good read and awesome pictures.

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Unread postby oldrank » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:23 am

Good stuff bridge. Most info parallels the info discussed here often. Thanks for sharing.

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Unread postby PLB » Sun Dec 28, 2014 3:25 am

Good read thanks SB. Although pretty basic information I would tend to agree with his observations. Pictures are awesome. Enclosure or not the guy knows whitetail deer behavior and has spent countless years studying their habits.

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Unread postby kurt » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:04 am

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Unread postby JohnnieU » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:28 am

Thanks for posting. The guy does take nice pics.
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Re: Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby Stanley » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:29 am

I think the thing that speaks volumes in the article is reiterating the fact that bucks spend 70%-85% of their time in beds. If you forget everything else about the the article don't read over this. If you then couple this information, with where the bucks spend time on their feet. This should really narrow down where you need to be hunting to be successful in killing big bucks. This also explains why the rut is a great time to kill a good buck. Bucks are not in their beds 70%-85% of the time. :think: It is so simple, yet so many fail to see it.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Unread postby kurt » Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:08 am

I wish it had more precise averages for age class... how much more does a 4.5 plus daylight activity increase during rut. I sometimes see 1.5 and 2.5 on their feet so much during rut it's a wonder how much they bed at all. Just curious if that skews numbers. Either way you have to be close to bedding.

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Re: Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby dan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:46 am

kurt wrote:I wish it had more precise averages for age class... how much more does a 4.5 plus daylight activity increase during rut. I sometimes see 1.5 and 2.5 on their feet so much during rut it's a wonder how much they bed at all. Just curious if that skews numbers. Either way you have to be close to bedding.

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I agree... But even if it were separated by age class you would get skewed results. Big differences in mature buck movement from unhunted or managed whitetails to heavy pressure whitetails...
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Re: Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby Stanley » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:13 am

I agree Dan, However in any area, mature buck movement from unhunted or managed whitetails to heavy pressure whitetails, they still bed more than they are on their feet. I think this is a huge piece of knowledge in putting big bucks on the wall.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Unread postby dan » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:45 am

Stanley wrote:I agree Dan, However in any area, mature buck movement from unhunted or managed whitetails to heavy pressure whitetails, they still bed more than they are on their feet. I think this is a huge piece of knowledge in putting big bucks on the wall.

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Unread postby kurt » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:01 am

Yeah if rut gets you 1% more increase on a 4.5 it maybe the 10 minutes you need

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Re: Understanding Bedding Behavior- Alsheimer

Unread postby PK_ » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:31 am

Stanley wrote:I think the thing that speaks volumes in the article is reiterating the fact that [glow=red]bucks spend 70%-85% of their time in beds[/glow]. If you forget everything else about the the article don't read over this. If you then couple this information, with where the bucks spend time on their feet. This should really narrow down where you need to be hunting to be successful in killing big bucks. This also explains why the rut is a great time to kill a good buck. Bucks are not in their beds 70%-85% of the time. :think: It is so simple, yet so many fail to see it.


Yea, and he said 'whitetails', so if that is the average they found for all whitetails, I bet the mature bucks were more like 90%+

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Unread postby Bigburner » Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:12 pm

Cool pics for sure.
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