Assuming you scouted and the wind is right
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Assuming you scouted and the wind is right
...what is the ratio of hunting trips to shooter buck encounters that you run into, on average, using beast style methods?
I've read on here that beast style hunting leads to less deer sightings but the ones you do see tend to be much better (in general).
I've read on here that beast style hunting leads to less deer sightings but the ones you do see tend to be much better (in general).
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Re: Assuming you scouted and the wind is right
It depends on the type of bed that you are hunting. Most Beast style beds are going to be "solo" which will be used in almost all cases by a buck. I don't know that there is a set ratio for encounters. I think that using these scouting techniques and playing the wind just makes you a lot more likely to encounter deer that you otherwise wouldn't if you went in there blind and set up shop.
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Not sure you can put a number on that, we all hunt different areas with different mature buck populations. We also have very different experience levels when it comes to scouting and hunting.
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Re: Assuming you scouted and the wind is right
That ratio is going to go up and down depending on number of mature animals and the number of available bedding locations...
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Once every 3-4 years...
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Tough one to guesstimate. For myself I would say 1 success in 20 outings would be a good estimate.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Re: Assuming you scouted and the wind is right
Stanley wrote:Tough one to guesstimate. For myself I would say 1 success in 20 outings would be a good estimate.
Thank you, Stanley.
That's what I was looking for. It kind of give me a rough idea of what a good hunter (you) expects after doing your homework and controlling the variables you can (scent, etc).
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dan wrote:That ratio is going to go up and down depending on number of mature animals and the number of available bedding locations...
The main property I hunt has 3 distinct buck beds that are a ways away from each other.
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Clevinger wrote:Stanley wrote:Tough one to guesstimate. For myself I would say 1 success in 20 outings would be a good estimate.
Thank you, Stanley.
That's what I was looking for. It kind of give me a rough idea of what a good hunter (you) expects after doing your homework and controlling the variables you can (scent, etc).
I would suspect my ratio might be a touch below average. I'm not as aggressive as most guys are (plus I'm older). I'm thinking Dan's ratio would be better for sure, he is more aggressive and a more skilled hunter than myself and just about everyone else.
You can fool some of the bucks, all of the time, and fool all of the bucks, some of the time, however you certainly can't fool all of the bucks, all of the time.
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Only looking at hunts up to Oct 20 (around that date I switch from targeting bedding to more rut style tactics) since 2006, when I started a hunting log (and not coincidentally about when I got serious about the technical aspects of big buck hunting):
2006 - 1 out of 3 hunts
2007 - 1 out of 7
2008 - 1 out of 8
2009 - 1 out of 6
2010 - 1 out of 8
2011 - 0 out of 6
2012 - 2 out of 8
Those were all 3 year old or older bucks, some I would have shot but didn't get the chance, a couple I did shoot, and some I passed. Yes I hunt pretty good ground but also note that I am only getting out 6-8 times a year in the "early season"...I try to hunt with a combination of good conditions, so my ratio is pretty good due to that. If I hunted every day my ratio would be much lower...if its hot, if there's a full moon up all night etc, I have learned to stay home and not burn the good spots. I never have more than a couple good early season big buck bedding areas.
2006 - 1 out of 3 hunts
2007 - 1 out of 7
2008 - 1 out of 8
2009 - 1 out of 6
2010 - 1 out of 8
2011 - 0 out of 6
2012 - 2 out of 8
Those were all 3 year old or older bucks, some I would have shot but didn't get the chance, a couple I did shoot, and some I passed. Yes I hunt pretty good ground but also note that I am only getting out 6-8 times a year in the "early season"...I try to hunt with a combination of good conditions, so my ratio is pretty good due to that. If I hunted every day my ratio would be much lower...if its hot, if there's a full moon up all night etc, I have learned to stay home and not burn the good spots. I never have more than a couple good early season big buck bedding areas.
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JoeRE wrote:Only looking at hunts up to Oct 20 (around that date I switch from targeting bedding to more rut style tactics) since 2006, when I started a hunting log (and not coincidentally about when I got serious about the technical aspects of big buck hunting):
2006 - 1 out of 3 hunts
2007 - 1 out of 7
2008 - 1 out of 8
2009 - 1 out of 6
2010 - 1 out of 8
2011 - 0 out of 6
2012 - 2 out of 8
Those were all 3 year old or older bucks, some I would have shot but didn't get the chance, a couple I did shoot, and some I passed. Yes I hunt pretty good ground but also note that I am only getting out 6-8 times a year in the "early season"...I try to hunt with a combination of good conditions, so my ratio is pretty good due to that. If I hunted every day my ratio would be much lower...if its hot, if there's a full moon up all night etc, I have learned to stay home and not burn the good spots. I never have more than a couple good early season big buck bedding areas.
Wow, thanks. That's really helpful.
Looks like your average is about 1 out of 7. Kind of gives me an idea for a range with Stanley's information.
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Clevinger wrote:JoeRE wrote:Only looking at hunts up to Oct 20 (around that date I switch from targeting bedding to more rut style tactics) since 2006, when I started a hunting log (and not coincidentally about when I got serious about the technical aspects of big buck hunting):
2006 - 1 out of 3 hunts
2007 - 1 out of 7
2008 - 1 out of 8
2009 - 1 out of 6
2010 - 1 out of 8
2011 - 0 out of 6
2012 - 2 out of 8
Those were all 3 year old or older bucks, some I would have shot but didn't get the chance, a couple I did shoot, and some I passed. Yes I hunt pretty good ground but also note that I am only getting out 6-8 times a year in the "early season"...I try to hunt with a combination of good conditions, so my ratio is pretty good due to that. If I hunted every day my ratio would be much lower...if its hot, if there's a full moon up all night etc, I have learned to stay home and not burn the good spots. I never have more than a couple good early season big buck bedding areas.
Wow, thanks. That's really helpful.
Looks like your average is about 1 out of 7. Kind of gives me an idea for a range with Stanley's information.
I kind of didn't read your original post correctly. My Bad. I based my ratio on big buck kills rather than encounters. I would better guess my encounters with mature bucks would be 1 out of 4 hunts. This would include passes, botches, bucks eluding my anticipated route. Sorry for the confusion on my part.
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So far 100% for me but ive only done 2 beast style hunts made a believer out of me though! Not that i wasn't already.
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Stanley wrote:I would better guess my encounters with mature bucks would be 1 out of 4 hunts. This would include passes, botches, bucks eluding my anticipated route. Sorry for the confusion on my part.
Thats impressive Stan
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wow you guys get to hunt alot....we only 6 weeks of early bow season in pa....if i wouldnt take vacation then i would only beable to hunt 6 days out of the season
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