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I wanted to start a discussion on beds, bedding direction and wind. I know Dan mentioned that "most" of the time he finds beds where he believes the buck is bedded facing down wind while the wind blows over his back so he is able to smell anything behind him and see anything approaching in front of him. But what about those bedding areas where their is no visual advantage for the deer? (deep in a swamp, red brush river bottoms, marsh cattails, corn, etc meaning you can't see in/you can't see out.
Here when I find beds I sometimes see beds where I believe it's wind to back but I also see buck beds where they put water or thick impenetrable cover at their back with the wind blowing to their face from the direction they are actually facing. Here I think they are using their sense of hearing to cover their back side as they would hear anything trying to get at them through water or thick tangle and give them the opportunity to slip out and obviously smell anything blowing to their face all while they are hidden inside security cover where no visual advantage is possible. I know this because several times while hunting beds I've gotten very close to bucks before busting them and can really analyze their bed with wind direction. Also the kill maps I posted in the "Farm Land" thread mostly had bucks bedding facing the wind. This is in mostly flat or very gentle rolling hills if there is any elevation change. So I guess you could say I find a mix here but many of the times I'm just making educated guessing on what wind.
So is it terrain that you think dictates what way the buck will bed and want the wind blowing to him (to his back or to his face)? Do you find wind to back in more open areas or in hilly terrain rather than in flat terrain with an abundance of thick cover? Do you think noise and hearing effectiveness plays any part? Like on a calm day he would hear anything coming from behind him through the thick tangle but on a windy day with the same wind direction he may not feel as secure in that same bed relying on his sense of hearing and may pick a bedding area where he can utilize his sight?
I'm curious to get some opinions on this.
Here when I find beds I sometimes see beds where I believe it's wind to back but I also see buck beds where they put water or thick impenetrable cover at their back with the wind blowing to their face from the direction they are actually facing. Here I think they are using their sense of hearing to cover their back side as they would hear anything trying to get at them through water or thick tangle and give them the opportunity to slip out and obviously smell anything blowing to their face all while they are hidden inside security cover where no visual advantage is possible. I know this because several times while hunting beds I've gotten very close to bucks before busting them and can really analyze their bed with wind direction. Also the kill maps I posted in the "Farm Land" thread mostly had bucks bedding facing the wind. This is in mostly flat or very gentle rolling hills if there is any elevation change. So I guess you could say I find a mix here but many of the times I'm just making educated guessing on what wind.
So is it terrain that you think dictates what way the buck will bed and want the wind blowing to him (to his back or to his face)? Do you find wind to back in more open areas or in hilly terrain rather than in flat terrain with an abundance of thick cover? Do you think noise and hearing effectiveness plays any part? Like on a calm day he would hear anything coming from behind him through the thick tangle but on a windy day with the same wind direction he may not feel as secure in that same bed relying on his sense of hearing and may pick a bedding area where he can utilize his sight?
I'm curious to get some opinions on this.
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Its apparent to me that deer sense of smell is really under rated by most hunters... I have noticed a deer can see you and not spook, he will then confirm you with his nose. He can hear you and not spook, but will then confirm it with his nose... They trust there nose over everything... Watch them feed, they will put the wind at there back as they feed across an open field or acorn flat. Smelling behind them as they get a mouth full and then lift there head to scan in front of them while they chew... I have watched bucks walk across a field and then turn around to have the wind correct for feeding direction...
As far as bedding, my observations and close looks at beds tell me "most" of the time they bed wind to back... Do they ever bed differently? Yes... There is nothing bucks do "all the time" or in every situation.
There are certain beds they lay in on any wind that are usually in very thick areas and its these that I think they are most likely to bed facing into the wind, but even in that situation, looking at beds the morning after a snow still shows me that most of them bedded wind to back... There are very few I found that were not.
As far as bedding, my observations and close looks at beds tell me "most" of the time they bed wind to back... Do they ever bed differently? Yes... There is nothing bucks do "all the time" or in every situation.
There are certain beds they lay in on any wind that are usually in very thick areas and its these that I think they are most likely to bed facing into the wind, but even in that situation, looking at beds the morning after a snow still shows me that most of them bedded wind to back... There are very few I found that were not.
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If there is a tree, or wall of brush, or rock, up against one side of the bed, the buck is generally facing the other direction... Out in the very thick cattails beds are often used with any wind direction, but I notice larger beds and believe most of the time they move around in that kind of bed to face down wind...
In a lot of cases where the wind is indeed wrong (in our eyes) for the direction he is facing, I have to wonder if its because of a thermal, a terrain forced wind current....?
Love to see some examples of bedding with bucks looking up wind... I think I remember bridge posting one a long time ago.
In a lot of cases where the wind is indeed wrong (in our eyes) for the direction he is facing, I have to wonder if its because of a thermal, a terrain forced wind current....?
Love to see some examples of bedding with bucks looking up wind... I think I remember bridge posting one a long time ago.
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dan wrote:If there is a tree, or wall of brush, or rock, up against one side of the bed, the buck is generally facing the other direction... Out in the very thick cattails beds are often used with any wind direction, but I notice larger beds and believe most of the time they move around in that kind of bed to face down wind...
In a lot of cases where the wind is indeed wrong (in our eyes) for the direction he is facing, I have to wonder if its because of a thermal, a terrain forced wind current....?
Love to see some examples of bedding with bucks looking up wind... I think I remember bridge posting one a long time ago.
Can you expand on this? I've watched the video several times and really hitting a marsh property for the first time. THis is the same parcel with the fewer scrapes. A few buck beds were found, and we have some assumptions based on our scouting, but I'm not fully convinced if the bedding is wind specific. One such bed was directly down wind of a very well used doe beds around a couple pine trees. That bed is about 60 yards away downwind of the predominant direction.
What clues you as to whether a bed in the marsh is wind specific or any wind use?
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Re: Bed direction/wind
dan wrote:Its apparent to me that deer sense of smell is really under rated by most hunters... I have noticed a deer can see you and not spook, he will then confirm you with his nose. He can hear you and not spook, but will then confirm it with his nose... They trust there nose over everything... Watch them feed, they will put the wind at there back as they feed across an open field or acorn flat. Smelling behind them as they get a mouth full and then lift there head to scan in front of them while they chew... I have watched bucks walk across a field and then turn around to have the wind correct for feeding direction...
As far as bedding, my observations and close looks at beds tell me "most" of the time they bed wind to back... Do they ever bed differently? Yes... There is nothing bucks do "all the time" or in every situation.
There are certain beds they lay in on any wind that are usually in very thick areas and its these that I think they are most likely to bed facing into the wind, but even in that situation, looking at beds the morning after a snow still shows me that most of them bedded wind to back... There are very few I found that were not.
Perhaps some of those beds I'm refering to were "any wind" beds. What about in river bottom or marsh terrain with river bends Dan? I find many of my beds on the inside of river bends and they appear to be positioned back to water and into the wind.. But again, perhaps these are "any wind " beds? I've always, for the most part seen bucks bed against or near water with their wind blowing over the water. The structure of the bed shows me this.. Like you meantioned ( brush, logs, dead falls, rocks built up on the backside). Perhaps they would chose that bed on any wind? What about those beds that are next to a big pond or lake with their backs to the water? Do you still think they would prefer wind coming from the water over their back? These are the beds I'm referring to.
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Re: Bed direction/wind
I see bucks face downwind from their bed quite a bit in my deep swamp areas when the terrain and bedding area favor the buck doing just that...
But I also see bucks bed facing into the wind- and many of these bucks are the oldest and most experienced in my swamps. They appear to have taken their bedding to a more advanced level- in other words they don't just bed on a hump in any wind direction in the super thick cover swamps I hunt.
The more mature bucks in deep conifer swamps like to put a barrier on their downwind side- that way they know a predator (wolf, coyote, etc.) can't get at them from that direction... they've blocked it off in other words. They like to use beaver ponds, impassable muck areas, blowdown areas where windstorms or a tornado knocked down cedars creating an area that it takes half a day to go 50 yards through... etc.
The bucks like to scent check and clear these beds from downwind, then hook around and approach the bed with the wind to their back. With the barrier on their downwind side, they give themselves a huge advantage as they look, smell and listen upwind at their backtrail. If anything tries to get to them from downwind and across the barrier they hear the futile attempt with ease and move out. Most predators don't even try, they follow the ground trail the buck put down on his approach... which leads to the predator being smelled, heard and possibly watched in the super dense cover upwind. I have tracked a fair number of predators trying to approach bucks this way and observed the buck's bed in the snow... he was facing upwind most of the time... but not always. The predators never had a chance of getting these bucks, with all of his senses focused in that direction.
I believe very windy days give these bucks fits, as hearing anything downwind and across the barrier is difficult at best... but with only being able to see ten yards or less sometimes, they have to put all their senses into play upwind (sight, smell and hearing). With the buck being able to see ten yards, he won't tolerate the chance that a coyote could sneak up close without him seeing it- sometimes predators don't come in perfectly and the buck can't smell or hear it- and the visual of a predator being ten yards out will blow the buck out of his bed without any scent confirmation. By the way, the bucks I have snowtracked around these beds don't approach their bed in a perfect fish-hook, they often make a lateral move at the end in case something is on their backtrail with almost no visibility in the heavy cover. This allows them to pick off the predator visually and clear out. They are not going to watch a wolf or coyote at ten yards and hope they walk on by- they are being tracked by the scent they left on the ground.
I think sometimes we get a little too hung up on which way the buck is facing- he'll face the direction that is most to his advantage. What is really important is knowing where the buck is bedded, his likely destination trail before dark, and getting set up without being detected- just as Dan has taught so many of us.
My cedar swamps are a special circumstance- the only reason I posted this is to demonstrate that deer "don't always do what they are supposed to"... remember from the start of my post that I have observed bucks in their beds and through snow tracking in my swamps that were facing downwind from the bed as well.
But I also see bucks bed facing into the wind- and many of these bucks are the oldest and most experienced in my swamps. They appear to have taken their bedding to a more advanced level- in other words they don't just bed on a hump in any wind direction in the super thick cover swamps I hunt.
The more mature bucks in deep conifer swamps like to put a barrier on their downwind side- that way they know a predator (wolf, coyote, etc.) can't get at them from that direction... they've blocked it off in other words. They like to use beaver ponds, impassable muck areas, blowdown areas where windstorms or a tornado knocked down cedars creating an area that it takes half a day to go 50 yards through... etc.
The bucks like to scent check and clear these beds from downwind, then hook around and approach the bed with the wind to their back. With the barrier on their downwind side, they give themselves a huge advantage as they look, smell and listen upwind at their backtrail. If anything tries to get to them from downwind and across the barrier they hear the futile attempt with ease and move out. Most predators don't even try, they follow the ground trail the buck put down on his approach... which leads to the predator being smelled, heard and possibly watched in the super dense cover upwind. I have tracked a fair number of predators trying to approach bucks this way and observed the buck's bed in the snow... he was facing upwind most of the time... but not always. The predators never had a chance of getting these bucks, with all of his senses focused in that direction.
I believe very windy days give these bucks fits, as hearing anything downwind and across the barrier is difficult at best... but with only being able to see ten yards or less sometimes, they have to put all their senses into play upwind (sight, smell and hearing). With the buck being able to see ten yards, he won't tolerate the chance that a coyote could sneak up close without him seeing it- sometimes predators don't come in perfectly and the buck can't smell or hear it- and the visual of a predator being ten yards out will blow the buck out of his bed without any scent confirmation. By the way, the bucks I have snowtracked around these beds don't approach their bed in a perfect fish-hook, they often make a lateral move at the end in case something is on their backtrail with almost no visibility in the heavy cover. This allows them to pick off the predator visually and clear out. They are not going to watch a wolf or coyote at ten yards and hope they walk on by- they are being tracked by the scent they left on the ground.
I think sometimes we get a little too hung up on which way the buck is facing- he'll face the direction that is most to his advantage. What is really important is knowing where the buck is bedded, his likely destination trail before dark, and getting set up without being detected- just as Dan has taught so many of us.
My cedar swamps are a special circumstance- the only reason I posted this is to demonstrate that deer "don't always do what they are supposed to"... remember from the start of my post that I have observed bucks in their beds and through snow tracking in my swamps that were facing downwind from the bed as well.
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Ridgerunner7 wrote:dan wrote:Its apparent to me that deer sense of smell is really under rated by most hunters... I have noticed a deer can see you and not spook, he will then confirm you with his nose. He can hear you and not spook, but will then confirm it with his nose... They trust there nose over everything... Watch them feed, they will put the wind at there back as they feed across an open field or acorn flat. Smelling behind them as they get a mouth full and then lift there head to scan in front of them while they chew... I have watched bucks walk across a field and then turn around to have the wind correct for feeding direction...
As far as bedding, my observations and close looks at beds tell me "most" of the time they bed wind to back... Do they ever bed differently? Yes... There is nothing bucks do "all the time" or in every situation.
There are certain beds they lay in on any wind that are usually in very thick areas and its these that I think they are most likely to bed facing into the wind, but even in that situation, looking at beds the morning after a snow still shows me that most of them bedded wind to back... There are very few I found that were not.
Perhaps some of those beds I'm refering to were "any wind" beds. What about in river bottom or marsh terrain with river bends Dan? I find many of my beds on the inside of river bends and they appear to be positioned back to water and into the wind.. But again, perhaps these are "any wind " beds? I've always, for the most part seen bucks bed against or near water with their wind blowing over the water. The structure of the bed shows me this.. Like you meantioned ( brush, logs, dead falls, rocks built up on the backside). Perhaps they would chose that bed on any wind? What about those beds that are next to a big pond or lake with their backs to the water? Do you still think they would prefer wind coming from the water over their back? These are the beds I'm referring to.
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Most of the river bend beds I have seen, hunted, or observed bucks in had the wind blowing into the bend so they could smell anything coming from the most likely direction... Land. I remember a spot in Iowa like that with a sheer drop across the river creating no way for anything to get at the bucks bedding in the river bend. I tried just peeking over the top of the cliff to look down at the beds. All the deer immeadiatly saw me jumped out of there beds and ran. And thats just one example.
The beds in those situations focused on across the river. You can tell the eye direction by the barrier. The barrier is to the back most of the time... I would be more inclined to suspect a bed was used on the wrong wind, than to suspect the buck left his back side vulnerable...
If you think about it, A buck can smell anything coming from upwind... So there is no reason to face that direction. There is the possibility that danger could come from the water, the high way, or whatever, to focus all efforts ( smell, hearing, & sight ) one way seems foolish to me, and the actions of a younger or less seasoned deer. I don't even think they have the reasoning capability to understand that danger is not likely from a certain direction, or odds of danger like we perceive.
I am in no way saying they don't do it, I have seen it once or twice myself, its just not often
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Singing Bridge wrote:I see bucks face downwind from their bed quite a bit in my deep swamp areas when the terrain and bedding area favor the buck doing just that...
But I also see bucks bed facing into the wind- and many of these bucks are the oldest and most experienced in my swamps. They appear to have taken their bedding to a more advanced level- in other words they don't just bed on a hump in any wind direction in the super thick cover swamps I hunt.
The more mature bucks in deep conifer swamps like to put a barrier on their downwind side- that way they know a predator (wolf, coyote, etc.) can't get at them from that direction... they've blocked it off in other words. They like to use beaver ponds, impassable muck areas, blowdown areas where windstorms or a tornado knocked down cedars creating an area that it takes half a day to go 50 yards through... etc.
The bucks like to scent check and clear these beds from downwind, then hook around and approach the bed with the wind to their back. With the barrier on their downwind side, they give themselves a huge advantage as they look, smell and listen upwind at their backtrail. If anything tries to get to them from downwind and across the barrier they hear the futile attempt with ease and move out. Most predators don't even try, they follow the ground trail the buck put down on his approach... which leads to the predator being smelled, heard and possibly watched in the super dense cover upwind. I have tracked a fair number of predators trying to approach bucks this way and observed the buck's bed in the snow... he was facing upwind most of the time... but not always. The predators never had a chance of getting these bucks, with all of his senses focused in that direction.
I believe very windy days give these bucks fits, as hearing anything downwind and across the barrier is difficult at best... but with only being able to see ten yards or less sometimes, they have to put all their senses into play upwind (sight, smell and hearing). With the buck being able to see ten yards, he won't tolerate the chance that a coyote could sneak up close without him seeing it- sometimes predators don't come in perfectly and the buck can't smell or hear it- and the visual of a predator being ten yards out will blow the buck out of his bed without any scent confirmation. By the way, the bucks I have snowtracked around these beds don't approach their bed in a perfect fish-hook, they often make a lateral move at the end in case something is on their backtrail with almost no visibility in the heavy cover. This allows them to pick off the predator visually and clear out. They are not going to watch a wolf or coyote at ten yards and hope they walk on by- they are being tracked by the scent they left on the ground.
I think sometimes we get a little too hung up on which way the buck is facing- he'll face the direction that is most to his advantage. What is really important is knowing where the buck is bedded, his likely destination trail before dark, and getting set up without being detected- just as Dan has taught so many of us.
My cedar swamps are a special circumstance- the only reason I posted this is to demonstrate that deer "don't always do what they are supposed to"... remember from the start of my post that I have observed bucks in their beds and through snow tracking in my swamps that were facing downwind from the bed as well.
This is a great read.... but the bold context has hit the nail on the head. As long as you know WHERE he is, that's when your in the game. Playing the wind to your advantage with a slight advantage to him allowing him to exit with the wind at his back will usually result in success ( seeing him during daylight, getting a shot, killing him, whatever you consider success)
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Thanks for the input guys. Knowing which way a buck is facing in a bed and on a given wind is of vital importance in some of the wide open farmland I hunt in southern Mi and northern Ohio. It shows me where I can walk/access and where I can't, how high I can get in a particular tree, etc. I like to get in and see what he sees so I know just how close I can get. In dense deep thicker cover maybe is less meaningful.
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RUTIN wrote:Singing Bridge wrote:I see bucks face downwind from their bed quite a bit in my deep swamp areas when the terrain and bedding area favor the buck doing just that...
But I also see bucks bed facing into the wind- and many of these bucks are the oldest and most experienced in my swamps. They appear to have taken their bedding to a more advanced level- in other words they don't just bed on a hump in any wind direction in the super thick cover swamps I hunt.
The more mature bucks in deep conifer swamps like to put a barrier on their downwind side- that way they know a predator (wolf, coyote, etc.) can't get at them from that direction... they've blocked it off in other words. They like to use beaver ponds, impassable muck areas, blowdown areas where windstorms or a tornado knocked down cedars creating an area that it takes half a day to go 50 yards through... etc.
The bucks like to scent check and clear these beds from downwind, then hook around and approach the bed with the wind to their back. With the barrier on their downwind side, they give themselves a huge advantage as they look, smell and listen upwind at their backtrail. If anything tries to get to them from downwind and across the barrier they hear the futile attempt with ease and move out. Most predators don't even try, they follow the ground trail the buck put down on his approach... which leads to the predator being smelled, heard and possibly watched in the super dense cover upwind. I have tracked a fair number of predators trying to approach bucks this way and observed the buck's bed in the snow... he was facing upwind most of the time... but not always. The predators never had a chance of getting these bucks, with all of his senses focused in that direction.
I believe very windy days give these bucks fits, as hearing anything downwind and across the barrier is difficult at best... but with only being able to see ten yards or less sometimes, they have to put all their senses into play upwind (sight, smell and hearing). With the buck being able to see ten yards, he won't tolerate the chance that a coyote could sneak up close without him seeing it- sometimes predators don't come in perfectly and the buck can't smell or hear it- and the visual of a predator being ten yards out will blow the buck out of his bed without any scent confirmation. By the way, the bucks I have snowtracked around these beds don't approach their bed in a perfect fish-hook, they often make a lateral move at the end in case something is on their backtrail with almost no visibility in the heavy cover. This allows them to pick off the predator visually and clear out. They are not going to watch a wolf or coyote at ten yards and hope they walk on by- they are being tracked by the scent they left on the ground.
I think sometimes we get a little too hung up on which way the buck is facing- he'll face the direction that is most to his advantage. What is really important is knowing where the buck is bedded, his likely destination trail before dark, and getting set up without being detected- just as Dan has taught so many of us.
My cedar swamps are a special circumstance- the only reason I posted this is to demonstrate that deer "don't always do what they are supposed to"... remember from the start of my post that I have observed bucks in their beds and through snow tracking in my swamps that were facing downwind from the bed as well.
This is a great read.... but the bold context has hit the nail on the head. As long as you know WHERE he is, that's when your in the game. Playing the wind to your advantage with a slight advantage to him allowing him to exit with the wind at his back will usually result in success ( seeing him during daylight, getting a shot, killing him, whatever you consider success)
On the contrary, I think this is a great post. I do think knowing which way a buck is looking while bedded is very important, and under what conditions he disregards wind direction. I set up treestands and hunt deer very close to there beds and don't want to be seen. Also, if you know for a fact a certain buck is bedded looking into the wind I would seriously consider sneaking up, wading, boating, crawling or whatever to get as close as possible to his vulnerable side and shoot him. At that point it just becomes a matter of noise and that can often be controlled.
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dan wrote: On the contrary, I think this is a great post. I do think knowing which way a buck is looking while bedded is very important, and under what conditions he disregards wind direction. I set up treestands and hunt deer very close to there beds and don't want to be seen. Also, if you know for a fact a certain buck is bedded looking into the wind I would seriously consider sneaking up, wading, boating, crawling or whatever to get as close as possible to his vulnerable side and shoot him. At that point it just becomes a matter of noise and that can often be controlled.
These remote areas, water / muck in particular, make sneaking up very difficult. Too deep to wade, too small and remote to get a kayak or canoe into and the muck is deep enough to sink a buffalo in to never be seen again.
But does anyone think, for the slightest second, that it would prevent Dan Infalt from getting the job done?
My family and friends' "outside the box" tactic is to don a wet suit and fins and swim into the wind to the bedding area while holding a gun or bow above water- some very large bucks have been taken this way. I haven't got quite this aggressive but probably should have a time or two. Sometimes our positioning is a little off and when dry ground is finally hit it was necessary to scale up a tree, by hand, to locate the bedded buck before climbing back down and positioning for the shot. None of my family or friends have died doing this (yet) but if they do at least it will doing something they love.
I have snuck in from the upwind side, just off wind, and positioned myself very close to the bedded buck and shot him with a rifle when he stood up. That's pretty aggressive too.
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Dan, I agree with you it IS better to know which way he is facing in his bed for the safety of myself in not blowing the hunt but that wont prevent me from hunting him if I don't know. The problem I have here is the bucks on my #1 farm bed in lower elevation creek bottoms and travel with the wind at their back uphill to crop fields so it really limits how close you can get to them bc you cant crest down the hill without them seeing you and you have to stay far enough back when climbing a tree that they don't see you while climbing.
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Interesting posts guys!
I hunt a lot of big steep bluff country. In many of these situations hunting pressure is from the top down, meaning the hill tops get lots of pressure and sometimes bottoms and low benches get much lighter pressure and as a result that is where bucks in these top down pressure situations spend their days (not the traditional points and such 2/3 or more up the hill). The wind often is extremely swirly low down in these valleys and I have observed many bucks bedding where they did not have wind to back....simply because the wind changes every 2 minutes. They do almost always bed with obstructions behind them and good visual in front of them even then. The interesting thing is I can remember watching good bucks bed from stand in these situations several times...only to scent me later on because of the swirling wind, and they always knew in general where I was from despite the variable wind.
I hunt a lot of big steep bluff country. In many of these situations hunting pressure is from the top down, meaning the hill tops get lots of pressure and sometimes bottoms and low benches get much lighter pressure and as a result that is where bucks in these top down pressure situations spend their days (not the traditional points and such 2/3 or more up the hill). The wind often is extremely swirly low down in these valleys and I have observed many bucks bedding where they did not have wind to back....simply because the wind changes every 2 minutes. They do almost always bed with obstructions behind them and good visual in front of them even then. The interesting thing is I can remember watching good bucks bed from stand in these situations several times...only to scent me later on because of the swirling wind, and they always knew in general where I was from despite the variable wind.
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Re: Bed direction/wind
RUTIN wrote:Dan, I agree with you it IS better to know which way he is facing in his bed for the safety of myself in not blowing the hunt but that wont prevent me from hunting him if I don't know. The problem I have here is the bucks on my #1 farm bed in lower elevation creek bottoms and travel with the wind at their back uphill to crop fields so it really limits how close you can get to them bc you cant crest down the hill without them seeing you and you have to stay far enough back when climbing a tree that they don't see you while climbing.
I agree... Hunt him regardless, but still good to have all the intel you can have.
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Re: Bed direction/wind
I find a lot of buck beds near thick swamps, in areas where the wind swirls. Good luck getting within 100 yards...
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