I agree Stan... But some situations do need you to play a just off wind, and some situations work well wind to the face... Sometimes both would work, often neither...
I think people hear a comment by a successful hunter and take it for gold. You gotta remember there are exceptions to every rule.
Always, never, and guaranteed, are 3 words a true whitetail hunter should never say...
I don't know anything about Bill Vale, but I do know Adam Hayes because he worked with Whitetail Addictions for a while... I talked with him about tactics and am pretty sure he don't do much buck bed hunting unless thats something new for him? And he is hunting some pretty premium ground for managed low pressure whitetails...
I think thats a bit different than the heavy pressure I have in public marshes and woods.
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Re: Why so many discrepancies regarding wind direction and b
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I don't know anything about Bill Vale, but I do know Adam Hayes because he worked with Whitetail Addictions for a while... I talked with him about tactics and am pretty sure he don't do much buck bed hunting unless thats something new for him? And he is hunting some pretty premium ground for managed low pressure whitetails...
I think thats a bit different than the heavy pressure I have in public marshes and woods.
Yeah I saw a kill video of one of his 200" bucks strolling into a picked bean field without a care in the world... Right after the 180" he passes on. I'd say that's low pressure. Kudos to him for working to access such ground
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Re: Why so many discrepancies regarding wind direction and b
dan wrote:I agree Stan... But some situations do need you to play a just off wind, and some situations work well wind to the face... Sometimes both would work, often neither...
I think people hear a comment by a successful hunter and take it for gold. You gotta remember there are exceptions to every rule.
Always, never, and guaranteed, are 3 words a true whitetail hunter should never say...
I don't know anything about Bill Vale, but I do know Adam Hayes because he worked with Whitetail Addictions for a while... I talked with him about tactics and am pretty sure he don't do much buck bed hunting unless thats something new for him? And he is hunting some pretty premium ground for managed low pressure whitetails...
I think thats a bit different than the heavy pressure I have in public marshes and woods.
Absolutely, If I have a couple options I always go with the best chance. If an off wind is my one chance at the buck I'm after that is what I will do. If I have a couple of bucks targeted and two options I take the best option.
I think we are in agreement I just worded it somewhat fuzzy.
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Good stuff guys.
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I just got the Marsh Buck video and watched it this weekend. First off, awesome, MUST SEE, for any deer hunter using whatever tactics! But to the point, I really liked one thing Dan and the guys and Andrae pounded on in the video which is that we can watch all the videos and do all the reading but ultimately the hunter needs to dive in, do the work, make the mistakes, get busted and figure things out for themselves. Yes, the videos are great but one of the beautiful things about mature buck hunting is there is no one thing that is going to enable a guy to just walk into the woods and kill a deer regardless of tactic. I consider Dan's video like going to school. I went to school for accounting and finance and learned all the theories, rules, etc. However, in the real world of business, there are so many variables that what I learned in school cannot begin to touch what I have learned from 30 years working in businesses. Additionally, I learn new things all the time. I make mistakes, I learn from that, I learn from other people, I learn from researching things online. To me mature buck hunting in particular, is the same way....there are some underlying theories that hold true (most of the time) and there are some tactics that can help a hunter be more successful but the bottom line is we have to get in and figure it out ourselves. We can use all the information from other sources and apply that information but it still takes us hunters thinking and "doing" hunting and figuring out our own way.
I think the variety of tactics you see guys that consistently kill mature buck on pressured lands shows there is more than one good way to do it.
I think the variety of tactics you see guys that consistently kill mature buck on pressured lands shows there is more than one good way to do it.
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Re: Why so many discrepancies regarding wind direction and b
mheichelbech wrote:I think the variety of tactics you see guys that consistently kill mature buck on pressured lands shows there is more than one good way to do it.
This is one thing I noticed rather quickly when I first started to devour books on hunting mature bucks. So many contradictions because guys think their way is the only way. I remember one quote where an author said 'If you don't wear rubber boots, I don't consider you a serious bowhunter.' I literally laughed out loud.
You just have to find the common denominators between successful hunters, and find out how it applies to you and the areas you hunt.
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