Ever have a deer you shot stolen ?

[dan]

Ever have a deer you shot stolen ? From your truck? in the woods? from your yard?
Lets hear your story... Or how you would deal with it...

[Indianahunter]

I have never had anything like that happen and I am not sure how I would deal with it, but am certain that I would be TORQUED!

[Beauford]

Dan two nice bucks out on public land, one for sure a head mount the other real close. I will fill in the story's next week have son's baseball tournament all weekend. Unless I have time later tonight to fill in the not so fun things about hunting.

[Beauford]

One last thing Dan you probably see a lot of things you are a true DIE Hard. I hope most hunters look up to you and follow the effort you put in like I do. I used to hear once in awhile stories about hunter;s taking your deer. But in 4 years I lost 2 bucks that are mine.

[Zap]

I shot a 130+ buck January 09 in th am, on public land in Missouri.

Dragged it and put in on the trailer.
Went back hunting, came back no buck.

marty

[Beauford]

At least I didn't have to gut and drag my deer out of the woods before they took it. Sorry my Friend. One quick story a old roommate at Madison said he was sitting in a Bar and Gr-amps came in yelling about his big buck he shot. Everybody ran outside and his truck bed was empty. He cause and drove back down the road and another truck was putting his buck in their own. He got it back, and bought some drinks back at the bar.

[dan]

I shot a mature 6 pointer at 10 yards as it snuck past my treestand during a deer drive. Hit it right thru the boiler room with a 12 gauge slug. Hit it one more time as it ran. When I shot it, it ran thru a field and a guy walking unloaded at it and ran over to claim it before I could get down
So, I got down and got there at the same time as the DNR warden who was glassing our deer drive. He was confiscating my buck from the guy who ran over to tag it cause he did not have a "buck" tag and was heard by the warden on the radio calling his wife over to tag it.
I tried pleading my case but the warden was a total . And ended up telling me to leave then giving the buck back to the thief with just a ticket... The guy was at the deer show showing off his buck winning a trophy for biggest 6 point. It scored 136 net as a 6 pointer...

I got invited to the Buckmasters classic celebrity hunt many years ago and since the meat was donated to there feed the hungry program I was urged to shoot a buck, most of the deer were tiny where I hunted they put all the celebrities in the good farms. I shot a nice average 2 1/2 year old 8 pointer... They asked if I wanted it caped and I said no so they just chopped off the antlers and salted them. The next morning the antlers were gone. They had been stolen. The guys were freaking out thinking I was going to be really pissed. But really, if the thief wanted them bad enough to steal them, all he had to do was ask and I would of given them, to him.

[magicman54494]

Not yet but almost my first one. I shot him after he crossed a marsh. Some guy was shooting at him before he crossed the marsh. He came looking and tried to tell me it was his. I blew the whistle that my dad gave me and when he saw my dad walking up he walked away.

[Dewey]

Never had a deer stolen but I have seen heard plenty of horror stories on public land during gun hunting in SE WI.
That's why I have been heading up to the Northwoods the last 15 years for the rifle season. I would rather see less deer rather than deal with some of the crap down here.
Where I hunt up north I can still leave a deer go until the next morning if I need to with no fear of somebody finding it and tagging it.

[Dabowhunter]

I was hunting a friend lease in marquette county years ago. It was opening day of gun season. I saw this yahoo empty his gun at a buck running across the field into our land. A while later he comes walking up looking for blood. Than he asks if I found his deer. Later I meet up at the road with my buddy who had shot a different buck with one shot to the head (no other wounds on the deer). The neighbor pulls up in a truck and tries to claim it is his deer. What a tool.

[dan]

Anybody remember those guys that got in an argument in the U.P. over a deer and later met up at a bar and the hillbillys from the U.P. killed the two hunters from Detroit they thought stole there deer in front of half the town and then fed the bodies to there pigs. The towns people were so afraid of the guys nobody told anybody what happened and it was just a missing person report for many may years before someone finally came forward.
Over a deer

[dan]

Found the story...

BY HUGH MCDIARMID JR.
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER


STANDISH - For almost two decades, the mystique shrouding the Duvall brothers' involvement in the disappearance of two metro Detroit hunters mushroomed like an urban legend.

The legend crashed down on top of the pair Wednesday in the 120 minutes it took jurors to find them guilty of first-degree murder in the bludgeoning deaths of Brian Ognjan of St. Clair Shores and David Tyll of Troy.

Raymond (J.R.) Duvall, 52, and Donald (Coco) Duvall, 51, now face a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole for the 1985 murders on a cold, dark, rural road near Mio.

For the families of the murdered men, it was a bittersweet moment.

``They took my son. It doesn't bring him back, but it's something,'' said Tyll's father, Arthur Tyll. He quivered with emotion outside the courtroom as he leaned unsteadily on a silver metal cane. ``I was glad to see them cuffed, and I can't wait to see them in chains.''

The jury's quick verdict stunned many observers who had settled in for a long stretch of deliberations over mountains of evidence presented in the 7-day trial before 23rd Circuit Judge Ronald Bergeron.

Police escorted jury members, who declined comment, to their cars after the verdict.

As the word ``guilty'' came from the jury foreman, Raymond Duvall dropped his head on the defense table briefly. Donald Duvall sat stoically. Some of their family members wept quietly as the pair left the courtroom in handcuffs. The family members declined comment as they hurried from the building.

The hunters' disappearance 18 years ago - over the weekend of Nov. 23-24 - sparked an intensive manhunt that attracted national publicity and examinations of the case on TV shows like ``Unsolved Mysteries.''

Dozens of lakes and rivers were searched, fields dug up, cadaver dogs called in, aerial searches conducted and ground-penetrating radar employed. Police even acted on tips from psychics, but no trace of the men, their belongings or their truck was found.

The investigation, spearheaded by the Michigan State Police, eventually focused on the Duvalls, two of a tightly knit clan of seven brothers who were known as hard-drinking, hot-tempered brawlers.

Donald and Raymond Duvall spent much of the 1980s living in a succession of trailers and small houses in the heavily forested woods of northeast Lower Michigan. They cut firewood and dealt in junk cars for a living, supplementing their incomes with poached fish and game.

According to testimony at their trial, the Duvalls bragged of the murders to family members and friends, who seldom told police because they feared retaliation. The brothers told several people they disposed of the bodies by feeding them to pigs.

The testimony painted Raymond and Donald Duvall as ruthless men who were quick with fists and threats, brawling frequently with their brothers and sometimes with their wives and girlfriends.

More than a half-dozen witnesses cited terror and threats as factors in not coming forward with information.

``Their human faces are nothing more than masks for monsters,'' said Donna Pendergast, assistant state attorney general, in her closing argument Wednesday.

She shot frequent glares in the Duvalls' direction as she lobbied jurors. The crime ``is an evil so dark your worst nightmare pales in comparison,'' she said. ``There is no understanding of pure evil, only the recognition of what it is.''

Despite the campaign of fear, witness statements trickled out over the years, including sealed testimony from the Duvalls' own brothers at a 1990 Oakland County grand jury hearing. The final piece to the puzzle came in 1999, when a tip led State Police Detective Sgt. Robert (Bronco) Lesneski to the doorstep of Barbara Boudro.

For several years, she refused to fully cooperate out of fear the Duvalls would kill her, she said. Finally, under oath at a special hearing this year, she admitted to being a witness to the beating in a field near her home.

There, she said, she watched as Donald Duvall crushed Tyll's skull with a baseball bat before the two brothers beat Ognjan to death with punches and kicks.

``I've never had a trial quite like this,'' Pendergast said. ``We had a witness who had some problems,'' she said, referring to Boudro's nervousness and hard-drinking lifestyle. ``But I'm glad after all these years we went for it. I thought the family deserved closure after 18 years.''

Defense attorneys said they planned to appeal the convictions.

``Certainly,'' said Seymour Schwartz, Donald Duvall's attorney. ``It's a murder conviction. You can't let it lie.''

He said he was unsure on what grounds he would challenge the verdict, but said he thought the trial and judge were fair.

Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox said he is confident the verdict will stand if the case is appealed. ``We have the best prosecutor in the state doing the case,'' he said of Pendergast.

Pendergast is married to Free Press columnist Brian Dickerson.

Both Pendergast and Lesneski choked back tears after the verdict, accepting praise from dozens of Tyll and Ognjan family members who had sat through the trial. The men were both 27.

Helen Ognjan, 84, spoke softly after the verdict. Brian Ognjan was her only child.

``I'm glad,'' she said. ``I'm just glad.''

[dan]

I watched a crime show about that case and they interviewed the main witness "Barbara Boudro" and she said the held the one guy down and made him watch as they killed his buddy laughing, she said the one brother hit him in the head with a full swing from a metal bat and that she could hear his head pop. She said after killing the 1st guy they picked up the other guy and said your next and all started laughing cause he pee'd his pants. He broke free but they chased him down and beat him to death with a bat too... Then they went to Barbara Boudro's house and forced there way in and told her if she told any body what happened they would feed her to the pigs just like these guys.
It started when one of the victims shot a deer and shortly after one of the Duvall brothers came up on him dressing it after following a blood trail from a shot he had took at the deer. It was two against one and Duvall
backed down until later when all the Duvall boys were at a bar and in walked the two guys who supposedly stole there deer. right in front of the whole bar they dragged the guys out behind Boudo's house and killed them.

[Zap]

Its best to pack heat, where ever you go.


marty

[Sneaky]

Had a doe quartered up and on ice in a cooler and someone took it. I was mad at the time, but after hearing Dan's story, it wasn't that big a deal. What is wrong with people?